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re: The Wheel of Time -- Season 2 coming in September -- Wise Ones Thread (Book Spoilers)

Posted on 11/20/21 at 8:01 am to
Posted by Rand AlThor
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 11/20/21 at 8:01 am to
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That was stupid fricking signaling BS. It’s quite clear The Dragon is male in the books. You have all the false Dragons and the drama around it. It was a stupid line.



Imma be real with you. Im not a ultra PC woke guy, but you’re just wrong on this. You just are. Changing this dialogue to make it possibly be Egwene (to the eye of the viewer) affects almost nothing material in the actual story. Rand will still be the dragon reborn. Egwene will still do what she does. That stuff won’t change. But what WILL happen, is that people who haven’t read the books that watch the show, will be more captured by the mystery of the dragon reborn and they will be more invested in the characters and the show as a result.

You may not have liked the show. shite, I’m not sure if I did yet. But, regardless, decisions like that are smart ones by the show runners because ultimately they need this show to appeal to more than just book readers if it’s going to be big enough to survive. Immaterial changes like that, that draw people in, are worth it 100% of the time.
This post was edited on 11/20/21 at 8:02 am
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43480 posts
Posted on 11/20/21 at 8:20 am to
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You may not have liked the show. shite, I’m not sure if I did yet. But, regardless, decisions like that are smart ones by the show runners because ultimately they need this show to appeal to more than just book readers if it’s going to be big enough to survive. Immaterial changes like that, that draw people in, are worth it 100% of the time.


Very well said.

Posted by PhineasFreakaZoid
Member since Oct 2021
1105 posts
Posted on 11/20/21 at 8:47 am to
What? There isn’t enough of a mystery with three male leads that are integral to the story? Including Egwene doesn’t add anything. What mystery does a 4th add that 3 doesn’t fulfill?
Posted by AUCom96
Alabama
Member since May 2020
5139 posts
Posted on 11/20/21 at 9:55 am to
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You may not have liked the show. shite, I’m not sure if I did yet. But, regardless, decisions like that are smart ones by the show runners because ultimately they need this show to appeal to more than just book readers if it’s going to be big enough to survive. Immaterial changes like that, that draw people in, are worth it 100% of the time.


I don't get that at all. You have an oppressive and powerful matriarchal order who hunts down specifically males who can draw on the source which becomes a crucial aspect of most of the rest of the story. Nothing is gained by suggesting a woman could be the Dragon, because that would significantly alter the methods and politics of the Aes Sedai.

This was just plain modern day virtue signaling, and there will be plenty more before this season finishes. It is Amazon, after all.
Posted by oauron
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2011
14518 posts
Posted on 11/22/21 at 11:55 am to
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Imma be real with you. Im not a ultra PC woke guy, but you’re just wrong on this. You just are. Changing this dialogue to make it possibly be Egwene (to the eye of the viewer) affects almost nothing material in the actual story.

Yes it does. It completes changes the entire idea of the separation of the one power in saidar and saidin. The books established that with Balthamel and what the Dark One did with him after.

By changing the core of the series (souls being reborn) it removes a lot of the stakes for what the Dragon Reborn would be for the world.
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