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247 has Walker Howard at the 6th best QB in the class
Posted on 10/20/21 at 8:53 pm
Posted on 10/20/21 at 8:53 pm
Wasn’t he just #1 a few months back ,’
This post was edited on 10/20/21 at 10:12 pm
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Posted on 10/20/21 at 9:22 pm to LSUstephen17
Broke leg
Posted on 10/20/21 at 9:48 pm to LSUstephen17
Go watch his highlights versus Neville and no way there are 5 QBs better than him
Posted on 10/20/21 at 10:41 pm to cajuntiger1010
Go watch Cade Kulbnik from Westlake....36-0 as QB in 6A football with 2 state championships on team averaging over 50 pt a game this year..he won the Elite 11...enough said....
Posted on 10/20/21 at 10:55 pm to daberryballer
Eh what kind of talent does he have around him? All the things you just listed could be contributed to other players on his team outside of the elite 11 which nobody really takes seriously anymore.
This post was edited on 10/20/21 at 10:56 pm
Posted on 10/21/21 at 1:17 am to OGtigerfan87
Only QB I can think of with a comparable high school record in Texas is Kyler, who also happens to be the mid-season betting favorite for NFL MVP.
Perhaps the most out of touch comment I’ve read on this board where the user is being dead serious and that’s saying something.
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Eh what kind of talent does he have around him? All the things you just listed could be contributed to other players on his team outside of the elite 11 which nobody really takes seriously anymore.
Perhaps the most out of touch comment I’ve read on this board where the user is being dead serious and that’s saying something.
This post was edited on 10/21/21 at 1:20 am
Posted on 10/21/21 at 6:16 am to McCaigBro69
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Perhaps the most out of touch comment I’ve read on this board where the user is being dead serious and that’s saying something.
Not really. If you put Walker Howard on that team he probably does the exact same thing. Westlake is loaded.
Posted on 10/21/21 at 7:44 am to cajuntiger1010
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Go watch his highlights versus Neville and no way there are 5 QBs better than him
I think what a lot of people dont realize is Walker Howard lost his top SEVEN receivers from last year (completely senior laden group) and was throwing it around to pretty much nobodies this year and was still dominating.
Go down to receiving sections and sort by receptions
STM returned a total 5 players who caught passes on the 2020 team for 2021 and they combined for 10 catches for 129 yards in 2020. STM threw for 3300 yards last year. To say Howard was throwing it to literal nobodies this year is not an understatement. Lost absolutely almost everyone off their team from last year.
This post was edited on 10/21/21 at 7:48 am
Posted on 10/21/21 at 7:58 am to thunderbird1100
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I think what a lot of people dont realize is Walker Howard lost his top SEVEN receivers from last year (completely senior laden group) and was throwing it around to pretty much nobodies this year and was still dominating.
Posted on 10/21/21 at 8:06 am to LSUstephen17
Also I dont know whats up with the 247 rankings team, but despite this being an absolutely loaded LA class, they have literally ZERO players from the state in the Top 50 in the country.
Campbell is #54, Mathews is #62, Law is #72 and Howard is now down to #74...it's insane.
I dont even know how you rank someone like Law ahead of Howard. Not as a slight to Law, but you gotta be joking. Keep in mind these rankings are to where they think they will be drafted ~4 years down the road...so they literally think none of these guys are even really that close to being 1st round type picks.
Campbell is #54, Mathews is #62, Law is #72 and Howard is now down to #74...it's insane.
I dont even know how you rank someone like Law ahead of Howard. Not as a slight to Law, but you gotta be joking. Keep in mind these rankings are to where they think they will be drafted ~4 years down the road...so they literally think none of these guys are even really that close to being 1st round type picks.
Posted on 10/21/21 at 8:15 am to OGtigerfan87
I watched Newman last week. Their team is horrible. Manning looked bad out there but it wasn’t all his fault.
Posted on 10/21/21 at 8:23 am to Clark W Griswold
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I watched Newman last week. Their team is horrible. Manning looked bad out there but it wasn’t all his fault.
I dont think anyone thinks Newman struggles at times (let's be honest, against good teams) due to Manning, just that Manning has gotten a lot of unnecessary hype because of his name and not as much his play on the field. There's no doubt he's a good QB, especially in high school...but the fact he does seem to constantly struggle against the best schools Newman plays is not a testament to a 5-star QB.
5-star QBs overcome things and make things happen, if they're truly 5 stars. I think Manning should be a pretty strong 4-star guy as the sample size against the better teams Newman plays isn't that kind to Manning. Certainly not to name him the #1 overall 5-star QB easily like most services are.
Look at Walker Howard's bad situation at STM this year and he was still putting up some nice numbers playing some (REALLY) good teams. STM wasn't losing 12-7 like Newman did last week or 21-7 in the playoffs last year to LCA. Newman was losing games with Howard this year 38-35, 59-35...that offense wasn't getting shut down.
This post was edited on 10/21/21 at 8:27 am
Posted on 10/21/21 at 1:30 pm to thunderbird1100
247 was way off with its ranking of Jack Bech
Posted on 10/21/21 at 1:39 pm to Mr Clean
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247 was way off with its ranking of Jack Bech
All the services were really close to one another in their rating/ranking of Bech.
On ESPN he was an 80 rating 4-star, somewhere just outside the Top 300 overall.
On Rivals he was a 5.8 rating 4-star, somewhere outside their Top 250.
On 247 he was a 5.7 rating 3-star, somewhere in the 300s for them as well.
Nothing really too different one to the next, he ended up #354 overall on composite so if I had to guess he was in the low-mid 300s on ESPN/Rivals and high 300s on 247
This post was edited on 10/21/21 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 10/21/21 at 1:52 pm to thunderbird1100
You have to admit, though. That fourth star looks a lot bette on a profile
Posted on 10/21/21 at 8:21 pm to McCaigBro69
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Only QB I can think of with a comparable high school record in Texas is Kyler, who also happens to be the mid-season betting favorite for NFL MVP.
Kyler Murray played for Allen High School. That place churns out D1 recruits perhaps at the highest level of any other high school in the country.
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Perhaps the most out of touch comment I’ve read on this board where the user is being dead serious and that’s saying something.
I actually think this comment is the one out of touch because Westlake is a powerhouse in Texas and regularly competes for state championships every year. It's the "go to" school to play football in Austin Texas.
Posted on 10/21/21 at 8:46 pm to daberryballer
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36-0 as QB in 6A football with 2 state championships
This ain't baseball! The kid's not a pitcher with a 36-0 record.
Posted on 10/21/21 at 9:56 pm to daberryballer
The commit to penn state is #1
Posted on 10/22/21 at 7:34 am to thunderbird1100
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To say Howard was throwing it to literal nobodies this year is not an understatement.
You used two words incorrectly in this short sentence, one of which you risk going to hell for using (not literally).
Posted on 10/22/21 at 7:36 am to thunderbird1100
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they have literally ZERO players from the state in the Top 50
What is the difference between literally zero and regular zero? Why are you sprinkling the word “literally” throughout your writings? You clearly don’t know what it means.
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