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I learned something today about an iconic Vietnam photograph
Posted on 10/5/21 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 10/5/21 at 12:43 pm
Jesse Kelly tweeted something regarding the photograph being the most dangerous invention in history. I like Jesse, and he is thought provoking, so I did not throw that comment away.
This photo (which won a Pulitzer) was used by American media to turn the public against Vietnam. Look at the cruelty of the South Vietnamese solider and the fear in the young Vietnamese's face. Ive seen this photo numerous times and have excused the Americans as "war is hell" and it does crazy things to you. The Vietnamese used tactics that were much more brutal, etc.
What I learned today is that the young man in the photo is Nguyen Van Lem was a Viet Cong soldier who slit the throats of South Vietnamese lieutenant colonel Nguyen Tuan, his wife, their six children, and the officer's 80-year-old mother.
He was being executed for those crimes.
This photo (which won a Pulitzer) was used by American media to turn the public against Vietnam. Look at the cruelty of the South Vietnamese solider and the fear in the young Vietnamese's face. Ive seen this photo numerous times and have excused the Americans as "war is hell" and it does crazy things to you. The Vietnamese used tactics that were much more brutal, etc.
What I learned today is that the young man in the photo is Nguyen Van Lem was a Viet Cong soldier who slit the throats of South Vietnamese lieutenant colonel Nguyen Tuan, his wife, their six children, and the officer's 80-year-old mother.
He was being executed for those crimes.
This post was edited on 10/5/21 at 12:46 pm
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Posted on 10/5/21 at 12:44 pm to anc
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Posted on 10/5/21 at 12:45 pm to anc
That is an American soldier?
This post was edited on 10/5/21 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 10/5/21 at 12:46 pm to Jake88
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That is an American soldier?
No, he was South Vietnamese. I was thinking about it turning the American public against the war and typed it. I corrected it.
Posted on 10/5/21 at 12:48 pm to Jake88
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That is an American soldier?
No, he was the chief of the Saigon Police or something similar.
Posted on 10/5/21 at 12:55 pm to anc
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n 1975, Loan fled South Vietnam during the Fall of Saigon, eventually emigrating to the United States.[13] Pressure from the U.S. Congress resulted in an investigation by the Library of Congress.[14] In 1978, the Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) contended that Loan had committed a war crime.[8] They attempted to deport him, but President Jimmy Carter personally intervened to stop the proceedings, stating that "such historical revisionism was folly".[15][16] Loan died on 14 July 1998 in Burke, Virginia, at the age of 67.[1]
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The sole survivor of Lém's killing of Tuan's family was Huan Nguyen; aged nine at the time, he was shot twice during the attack that killed his family and stayed with his mother for two hours as she bled to death.[17] In 2019, he became the highest ranking Vietnamese-American officer in the U.S. military when he was promoted to the rank of rear admiral in the United States Navy.[17]
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Posted on 10/5/21 at 12:55 pm to anc
Punishment fit the crime. I'm good with it
Posted on 10/5/21 at 12:56 pm to anc
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What I learned today is that the young man in the photo is Nguyen Van Lem was a Viet Cong soldier who slit the throats of South Vietnamese lieutenant colonel Nguyen Tuan, his wife, their six children, and the officer's 80-year-old mother.
Further, the photographer Eddie Adams (who won a Pulitzer for the pic) regretted that the photo spread without context. Lem was a real scumbag.
Posted on 10/5/21 at 1:13 pm to anc
The crimes of this VC have been know for years.
The hero in this photo, Major General Nguy?n Ng?c Loan, moved to the US after the war and opened a restaurant in Burke, VA.
Eddie Adams apologized to Loan for the damage the photo di to him and his family. He wrote a eulogy in Time after Loan's death.
The hero in this photo, Major General Nguy?n Ng?c Loan, moved to the US after the war and opened a restaurant in Burke, VA.
Eddie Adams apologized to Loan for the damage the photo di to him and his family. He wrote a eulogy in Time after Loan's death.
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The general killed the Viet Cong; I killed the general with my camera. Still photographs are the most powerful weapon in the world. People believe them, but photographs do lie, even without manipulation. They are only half-truths. What the photograph didn't say was, "What would you do if you were the general at that time and place on that hot day, and you caught the so-called bad guy after he blew away one, two or three American soldiers?"
Posted on 10/5/21 at 1:15 pm to anc
quote:But why don't we blame American boomers
No, he was South Vietnamese. I was thinking about it turning the American public against the war and typed it. I corrected it.
Posted on 10/5/21 at 1:17 pm to anc
No, I cannot believe the media would lie about something like this.
Posted on 10/5/21 at 1:18 pm to anc
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I was thinking about it turning the American public against the war and typed it.
America's most trusted communist took care of that.
Posted on 10/5/21 at 1:18 pm to anc
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He was being executed for those crimes.
Then he should have shot him in the stomach. Head shot is too quick for a monster like that.
Posted on 10/5/21 at 1:20 pm to Boat Vol
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"What would you do if you were the general at that time and place on that hot day, and you caught the so-called bad guy after he blew away one, two or three American soldiers?"
Do we have electricity? Because an electric filet knife would be my choice. Probably start with the soles of the feet and work my way up.
Posted on 10/5/21 at 1:21 pm to anc
With your permission I'd like to share this picture and info(cut and paste word for word) LOL, I've been lurking/reading here for years, is there a DM function?
Posted on 10/5/21 at 1:27 pm to anc
When he shot this VC. There was a stream of blood as big around as your finger shot out his head like a water fountain.
There are videos of the entire incident out there.
Go to YouTube.
Keywords: (Video) Execution of Viet Cong Prisoner Nguy?n Van Lém.
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There are videos of the entire incident out there.
Go to YouTube.
Keywords: (Video) Execution of Viet Cong Prisoner Nguy?n Van Lém.
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Posted on 10/5/21 at 1:28 pm to Boat Vol
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America's most trusted communist took care of that.
Walter started us down the path of bullshite we see with "news" organizations today. He was a good red soldier.
Posted on 10/5/21 at 1:29 pm to anc
Interdasting. Never knew the history of the photo. Thanks for sharing
Posted on 10/5/21 at 1:31 pm to FightinTigersDammit
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Punishment fit the crime. I'm good with it
Posted on 10/5/21 at 2:41 pm to anc
How about this Vietnam tidbit:
George Stephen Morrison (January 7, 1919 – November 17, 2008) was a United States Navy rear admiral (upper half) and naval aviator. Morrison was commander of the U.S. naval forces in the Gulf of Tonkin during the Gulf of Tonkin Incident of August 1964, which sparked an escalation of American involvement in the Vietnam War. He was the father of Jim Morrison, the lead singer of the rock band The Doors.
George Stephen Morrison (January 7, 1919 – November 17, 2008) was a United States Navy rear admiral (upper half) and naval aviator. Morrison was commander of the U.S. naval forces in the Gulf of Tonkin during the Gulf of Tonkin Incident of August 1964, which sparked an escalation of American involvement in the Vietnam War. He was the father of Jim Morrison, the lead singer of the rock band The Doors.
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