re: A stolen election

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guess I have to ask. What is "sure fire proof" for you?

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For example if Mike lindell actually had pcaps. That could be verified by cyber security experts.

What im looking for in a case of fraud is for a walkthrough of who did it, what they did, explanation of how it affected the election ,with supporting data/evidence that can be reviewed independently to support the claim.

Nothing has hit that standard. There have been claims but then the data or evidence fell apart either before arrival or upon review. There are lots of claims but walk me end to end through one of the claims and you eventually get to a point where it falls apart.