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Fourchon Beach washed away…….again
Posted on 9/5/21 at 2:08 pm
Posted on 9/5/21 at 2:08 pm
Looks like the $147 million dollars spent on pumping sand to Fourchon Beach just was washed away. Dredging projects are a complete waste of money since the same mechanisms which washed away the land before the projects are still in play today. It is beyond time to look at river diversions before ALL the wetlands are gone.
Estimated Cost: $147.1 million
Land Benefit: 489 acres
Funding Program: NFWF
Project Parish: Jefferson, Lafourche
Project Description: This project restored 489 acres of beach and dune habitat on more than seven miles of Caminada Headland in Jefferson and Lafourche parishes through the direct placement of approximately 5.4 million cubic yards of sandy material from Ship Shoal (an offshore borrow source).
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Estimated Cost: $147.1 million
Land Benefit: 489 acres
Funding Program: NFWF
Project Parish: Jefferson, Lafourche
Project Description: This project restored 489 acres of beach and dune habitat on more than seven miles of Caminada Headland in Jefferson and Lafourche parishes through the direct placement of approximately 5.4 million cubic yards of sandy material from Ship Shoal (an offshore borrow source).
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Posted on 9/5/21 at 2:14 pm to sawtooth
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Funding Program: NFWF
It's their money, they can do what they want with it
The National Fish and Wildlife Foundation awards competitive grants through our programs to protect and conserve our nation's fish, wildlife, plants and habitats. The Foundation works with public and private partners in all 50 states and U.S. territories
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We leverage public funds to raise private dollars, and award those funds to projects that will do the most good across a wide range of landscapes.
This post was edited on 9/5/21 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 9/5/21 at 2:24 pm to tgrbaitn08
“In early 2013, a U.S. District Court approved two plea agreements resolving certain criminal cases against BP and Transocean which arose from the 2010 Deepwater Horizon explosion and oil spill. The agreements directed a total of $2.544 billion to NFWF to fund projects benefiting the natural resources of the Gulf Coast that were impacted by the spill.”
It was wasted……
It was wasted……
Posted on 9/5/21 at 2:28 pm to sawtooth
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Dredging projects are a complete waste of money
Go tell me how all them dredging projects up near Lafitte look baw. Or oyster bayou in Cameron following TWO direct hits of major hurricanes last year. quote:You realize that whether it be sediment placed via a Week’s Marine 30” dredge or a diversion that will cost billions in construction and millions in O&M, a direct Cat 4 hit will move around some sediment right?
It is beyond time to look at river diversions before ALL the wetlands are gone.
I think you should educate yourself a little more before you post again so you don’t look like an idiot.
This post was edited on 9/5/21 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 9/5/21 at 2:33 pm to jimbeam
There should be a dredge running every 20 miles down the Louisiana coast. Red tape prevents it, but it would be cheap. Additionally, no matter how much background investigations you do beforehand, you’ll always hit a pipeline that no one knew was there. Damn near always.
Posted on 9/5/21 at 2:34 pm to tenfoe
Pipelines are the bane of my existence
Posted on 9/5/21 at 2:42 pm to jimbeam
Are you saying the dredging project worked at Fourchon Jim?
This post was edited on 9/5/21 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 9/5/21 at 2:47 pm to jimbeam
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Pipelines are the bane of my existence
I frickin love em. And the compressor stations that move product through them. And the underground storage facilities that they empty into as well.
Posted on 9/5/21 at 2:48 pm to tigerinthebueche
Jim lives in a log cabin and takes a horse to work. Otherwise he would be a complete hypocrite for that statement.
Posted on 9/5/21 at 2:55 pm to sawtooth
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This project aims to create and enhance 303 acres of beach and dune, reinforcing almost six miles of barrier headland habitat, reducing the impacts of storm events on Port Fourchon and Highway 1, a vital hurricane evacuation route for Fourchon and Grand Isle. The Caminada Headland also provides important habitat for nesting shorebirds as well as migratory birds as it is one of the first available stopover sites during migration. The headland is also critical habitat for the endangered piping plover.
Which one of these goals was not met?
All good Tiger. I just gotta plan my projects around them
This post was edited on 9/5/21 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 9/5/21 at 2:57 pm to jimbeam
Yes Jim. They created the land. Then it was all washed away. That is where the term “waste” comes into play.
Lots of money was spent. Nothing to show for it a few years later.
Lots of money was spent. Nothing to show for it a few years later.
Posted on 9/5/21 at 3:05 pm to sawtooth
Can you please quantify how much volume washed away? At which volume or area threshold would you consider the project to be a waste?
Posted on 9/5/21 at 3:21 pm to sawtooth
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Lots of money was spent. Nothing to show for it a few years later.
There are thousands of homes in south Louisiana that this would apply to also
Posted on 9/5/21 at 3:32 pm to sawtooth
Let’s stop wasting money on a losing battle
Posted on 9/5/21 at 7:04 pm to sawtooth
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In early 2013, a U.S. District Court approved two plea agreements resolving certain criminal cases against BP and Transocean which arose from the 2010 Deepwater Horizon explosion and oil spill. The agreements directed a total of $2.544 billion to NFWF to fund projects benefiting the natural resources of the Gulf Coast that were impacted by the spill.
Yea I imagine that's a real kick in the arse to the families that lost members on the Horizon.
Posted on 9/5/21 at 7:07 pm to sawtooth
They haven’t spent all that money yet
Posted on 9/5/21 at 7:21 pm to sawtooth
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It is beyond time to look at river diversions before ALL the wetlands are gone.
So why are river diversion projects a no go?
Posted on 9/5/21 at 7:40 pm to aTmTexas Dillo
They have diversions and won’t open them due to oyster fishermen harvesting oysters in areas that never had them before due to saltwater intrusion.
It’s all in litigation and corruption. As usual. Open the gates all the way all the time. Plus make more.
It’s the only way.
Beyond that- blow up the levee system south of Belle chase
It’s all in litigation and corruption. As usual. Open the gates all the way all the time. Plus make more.
It’s the only way.
Beyond that- blow up the levee system south of Belle chase
Posted on 9/5/21 at 8:32 pm to sawtooth
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Looks like the $147 million dollars spent on pumping sand to Fourchon Beach just was washed away.
Can you show me your benefit cost analysis of the surge reduction from this project? Looks like Port Fourchon wasn’t as damaged as they feared. I don’t know the exact figure but I think $147M is roughly 10 days downtime from Port Fourchon.
Also, where did the dredge spoil get washed? Offshore? Adjacent marsh? Net positive into the system or total loss?
Posted on 9/6/21 at 8:53 am to sawtooth
I am looking at aerials of a beach with some overwash but no breaches from a Cat 4 eye wall hit…the beach looks pretty damn good to me. Wind and waves will move some of the sand that was washed just offshore back to the beach in quiescent times via formation of sandbars that will slowly migrate toward the beach and ultimately weld to it, just like we observe on many family trips over to FLA. Beaches have a natural way to heal to some extent.
I will say the east end of GI and all of East and West Grand Terre look awful and will need intervention if they are to remain as landscape features. I fear for what the Terrebonne islands look like, but NOAA’s dumbass photo strategy left them out.
I will say the east end of GI and all of East and West Grand Terre look awful and will need intervention if they are to remain as landscape features. I fear for what the Terrebonne islands look like, but NOAA’s dumbass photo strategy left them out.
This post was edited on 9/6/21 at 8:54 am
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