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Hawaii Numbers. 95% 65+ are vaccinated.. results slowly coming in

Posted on 8/19/21 at 2:37 pm
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55382 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 2:37 pm
Delta is less deadly btw.

But here are the numbers:

According to the CDC 99.9% of those 65+ in Hawaii have been vaccinated!

Also, according to the state of Hawaii, cases for those 65+ in Hawaii are at an all-time record and growing "exponentially".

Must be the 0.1% ruining it for everyone.

(90% of Hawaii wearing masks, too).









Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
12200 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 2:43 pm to
It’s the Pacific Islanders in Hawaii who are vaccine hesitant. They’re also the most obese and sickly.

But it’s white white Trump supporters in red states who are “anti-Vaxxers”!
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 2:44 pm
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
35044 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 2:44 pm to
Well duh, they haven’t gotten the booster yet. This is useless without the booster. Don’t you trust the science!?!
Posted by Whichwayisup
Member since Jun 2021
454 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 2:44 pm to
Posted by geauxbears08
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2011
233 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 2:45 pm to
Delta is less deadly because a lot of people died from the original COVID* leaving less people available to die from Delta. It's impossible to correct the data for this fact, but having the two peaks in close timeline to each other will muddy the facts.

edit for clarity: *people who are susceptible to die from COVID (>80 yrs old, co-morbidity, etc.)
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 2:46 pm
Posted by shawnlsu
Member since Nov 2011
23682 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 3:07 pm to
quote:

Delta is less deadly because

that's what viruses do. They get more contagious and less lethal. It's called nature taking over what (China)man and FaucXi screwed up so badly.
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 3:08 pm
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 3:47 pm to
all data coming out shows one clear an undeniable fact, the vaccinated are super spreaders and they are the ones causing the uptick in cases

its time all the vaccinated are forced into lockdown and prevented from interacting with normal people until they no longer spread covid to others
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103144 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 3:51 pm to
Gabriel Iglasias joked that he used to constantly get mistaken for Hawaiian because of his attire.

He figured out why once he went to the islands and saw that “they look like swollen Mexicans.”
Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
3970 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

Delta is less deadly because a lot of people died from the original COVID* leaving less people available to die from Delta. It's impossible to correct the data for this fact, but having the two peaks in close timeline to each other will muddy the facts.


Tell me something....
Do viruses usually mutate into more infectious and more deadly variants
or
more infectious and less deadly variants
Posted by TulaneFan
Slidell, LA
Member since Jan 2008
14092 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 4:41 pm to
Isn’t being vaccinated literally a requirement to go to Hawaii these days?
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
12200 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 4:58 pm to
No, just a negative test
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6534 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 5:02 pm to
quote:


Tell me something....
Do viruses usually mutate into more infectious and more deadly variants
or
more infectious and less deadly varian


mutations happen at random and are equally likely to be positive or negative depending on the scenario of the environment. potential aspects of mutations would have trade offs in environmental protections, replication, infectivity, and lethality. generally viruses cant persist if they are too fatal, too fast. yet still viruses can be fatal and persist due to long incubations, HIV -> aids, hepatitis etc.

although which is more likely to persist and succeed establishing a new strain is a different question and is dependent on factors in the environment, not the mutation itself per se. if something can persist incredibly well and is 100% lethal only after a long lag time the lethality is less of a negative for the virus. since viruses have different attributes for a virus is not a simple one or the other, you gotta factor in variables on both sides of the equation.

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