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Is Western Europe becoming red pilled?

Posted on 8/9/21 at 10:25 pm
Posted by cajuntiger1010
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 8/9/21 at 10:25 pm
It seems like people in France, Italy, Germany, Rural England are rejecting the vaccine passports. I really thought loose immigration was going to swing Europe more conservative but it might be over the strict covid response.

Looks like they are realizing that the modern left is way more similar to Hitler's and Mussolini's regimes. They were brainwashed after WWII believing that Facism was more aligned with conservative beliefs than progressive beliefs.

I believe the Cold War is the reason why the US is traditionally more conservative than all of Western Europe. We were skeptical against Russia after WWII. Meanwhile the Europeans not so much.
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
12200 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 10:28 pm to
I think most actually support them. While we are seeing a lot of the population take to the streets, they are dwarfed by the majority who are not in the streets and support the vaccine passports
Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
6570 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 10:37 pm to
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I think most actually support them. While we are seeing a lot of the population take to the streets, they are dwarfed by the majority who are not in the streets and support the vaccine passports


Link?
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
12200 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 10:48 pm to
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Link?



https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/08/macron-tells-critics-vaccine-passport-will-protect-all-our-freedoms


60-70% of France support vaccine passports. The planet been sufficiently indoctrinated with fear. Get ready, totalitarianism is coming.
Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
5677 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 10:49 pm to
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I believe the Cold War is the reason why the US is traditionally more conservative than all of Western Europe. We were skeptical against Russia after WWII. Meanwhile the Europeans not so much.


What a retarded take. Germany literally tried to get the world to go to war with communism. We snuffed out the only people to really put the boots to the communist while joining with the communists. In fact, we gave Eastern Europe to the communists!

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They were brainwashed after WWII


Fascism fought communism. United States allied with communism. You may need to check a mirror to look at who has been brainwashed.

Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26035 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 10:53 pm to
There is a chance for Italy. Meloni and The Brothers of Italy Party seem to be gaining traction there.

I don't think the establishment in France will ever tolerate a Le Pen victory. They will steal the election like what happened here if they have to. I believe Macron is finished, but the establishment is scrambling to find a replacement. Looks like it maybe coming from De Gaulles old party.

Germany: No hope for that place.
This post was edited on 8/9/21 at 10:58 pm
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17384 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 10:54 pm to
I think an indicator could be the major soccer leagues when they get into full swing this month. Supporter groups traditionally get quite contentious with their clubs if something pisses them off enough.

PSG's first home game will be full capacity this weekend, but they're mandating a vax passport or negative test to enter. Last season, the Parisian ultras gathered without masks outside closed stadiums during games, even though they were told to stay home. I'm curious how cooperative they'll be now.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
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Posted on 8/9/21 at 11:15 pm to
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Germany literally tried to get the world to go to war with communism.
you mean the same Germany that was an ally of communist Russia before they turned on them? you don't understand history or economics very well.
Posted by Landmass
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 8/9/21 at 11:24 pm to
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Fascism fought communism


Fascism is simply a different way to implement the same things. It's all tyranny. It's all totalitarian control. Fascism is closer to what we have against us now than communism. Open your eyes. Its the same enemy.
Posted by DagneyTaggert
Member since Sep 2016
180 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 11:31 pm to
They are not becoming......they have BEEN Red Pilled, just like the VAST Majority of US population!

FAR MORE PEOPLE ARE AWARE, UNDERSTAND WHAT HAS/IS BEEN GOING ON.

But due to the MSM, Big Tech, Social Media extreme dominance, collusion & censoring.....IT ONLY APPEARS THERE IS A DIVIDE. It ain't even close to 50/50.

It is the MSM's JOB to Misinform/Censor/Indoctinate. That is what they do, and it is ENORMOUSLY POWERFUL, AND ALSO EVIL & CRIMINAL.

But despite that weapon.....I don't know what it is now, but like 78 to 82% of the US Population VEHEMENTLY DOES NOT TRUST THE MEDIA!!

So, there is your answer. They have the weapon, dominance, message - which they regurgitate over & over......AND IT DID NOT & AINT WORKING!!!

Even Democrats know & admit that they DO NOT TRUST THE MEDIA!!
Posted by Browncd81
Member since Nov 2020
533 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 11:45 pm to
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Fascism fought communism. United States allied with communism. You may need to check a mirror to look at who has been brainwashed


It wasn’t a real alliance. We sided with the lesser of two evils. If it were a real alliance we wouldn’t have gone from WW2 to Cold War. We took them down one at a time, fall of Germany and then fall of USSR decades later. We also took out an imperial monarchy in Japan during WW2. So covered the whole spectrum of totalitarianism threats to the world

Sure, communism devastated Eastern Europe for about 40 years, but don’t know what better options we had than a slow Cold War once both sides were armed with nukes
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 11:51 pm to
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Looks like they are realizing that the modern left is way more similar to Hitler's and Mussolini's regimes. They were brainwashed after WWII believing that Facism was more aligned with conservative beliefs than progressive beliefs.


I'm always fascinated by those understand Hitler's National Socialism and Mussolini's Fascism in terms of the American left-right political spectrum.
Posted by WinnPtiger
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2011
24941 posts
Posted on 8/9/21 at 11:56 pm to
it absolutely is. and the Saxon wasn’t born hateful. it is learned, and reactionary. the EU should tread very lightly, or better yet, not tread at all
Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
5677 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 7:41 am to
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It wasn’t a real alliance. We sided with the lesser of two evils.


That is not even close to the truth. And when is the capitalism that we have now not evil? We are being looted dry by the same people who controlled USSR. When Germany and Soviet Union invaded Poland only Germany was declared war on. That was with the knowledge that the Soviet Union had already genocided at least 30 million Christians. The Soviet Union ended up genociding 100 million Christians.

Also there was never any real war between USSR and the US. They were such war buddies they could manage to do things like that ridiculous Antarctica pact. It's all a fricking show man and Germany was the only major threat to throw off the globalist shackles. Germany was far and away the good guys of WWII. Almost everything bitched about modernity on this board is fixed with fascism.

Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62170 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 7:42 am to
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They were brainwashed after WWII believing that Facism was more aligned with conservative beliefs than progressive beliefs.


What?
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 7:43 am to
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progressive beliefs


You mean socialist/communist beliefs. Call it for what it is. They just repackaged the word because of all the negative views of communism and socialism
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
31510 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 7:44 am to
We can certainly hope...
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
18692 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 7:45 am to
You would think the people of modern Western Europe would be all for small government given the events of the 20th century over there. But no.... those damn fools never learn and America will eventually have to rescue them again.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62170 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 7:46 am to
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Fascism is simply a different way to implement the same things. It's all tyranny. It's all totalitarian control. Fascism is closer to what we have against us now than communism. Open your eyes. Its the same enemy.


Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62170 posts
Posted on 8/10/21 at 7:48 am to
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You would think the people of modern Western Europe would be all for small government given the events of the 20th century over there. But no.... those damn fools never learn and America will eventually have to rescue them again.


lol. Yeah, the American that is imposing its progressive beliefs on most of the world. And let's be honest, who has small government? Maybe some random island nation somewhere. Certainly not the U.S.
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