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We don't know how many people died FROM Covid, therefore can't know Vax effectiveness
Posted on 8/9/21 at 11:39 am
Posted on 8/9/21 at 11:39 am
1- Do we know the actual death count FROM Covid?
No. We do not. Every state in the USA counted all deaths as FROM covid if they tested positive.
2- What does that mean? Is there a difference?
What that means is that a death could have been from a car accident, but if they test you and you tested positive, the death was labeled as a Covid death.
3- Is there a difference between dying with covid and from covid?
Really? You don't know the answer to that?
4- How do you know that they lumped them all together?
Because they told the public they did. LINK
As you can see and hear in the video, a person could have been given 2 weeks to live, but if they test and covid is present... it's a covid death.
Because we do not know the starting number, you can not know how effective the vaccine actually is.
Even in the CDC guide on reporting they state this:
CDC PDF.....
Now you can see that the CDC says even if you don't detect covid, if you think it could be..... write it down... another covid death.
No. We do not. Every state in the USA counted all deaths as FROM covid if they tested positive.
2- What does that mean? Is there a difference?
What that means is that a death could have been from a car accident, but if they test you and you tested positive, the death was labeled as a Covid death.
3- Is there a difference between dying with covid and from covid?
Really? You don't know the answer to that?
4- How do you know that they lumped them all together?
Because they told the public they did. LINK
As you can see and hear in the video, a person could have been given 2 weeks to live, but if they test and covid is present... it's a covid death.
Because we do not know the starting number, you can not know how effective the vaccine actually is.
Even in the CDC guide on reporting they state this:
quote:
In cases where a definite diagnosis of COVID–19 cannot
be made, but it is suspected or likely (e.g., the circumstances
are compelling within a reasonable degree of certainty), it
is acceptable to report COVID–19 on a death certificate...
Ideally, testing for COVID–19 should be conducted, but it is acceptable to report COVID–19 on a death
certificate without this confirmation
CDC PDF.....
Now you can see that the CDC says even if you don't detect covid, if you think it could be..... write it down... another covid death.
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Posted on 8/9/21 at 11:40 am to Jjdoc
The scared sheep can not digest these truths...
Posted on 8/9/21 at 11:42 am to Jjdoc
...and if they used a PCR test to get a positive covid result which we know are bullshite... covid death.
Posted on 8/9/21 at 11:43 am to Jjdoc
It's actually a brilliant plan with seemingly no defense.
Posted on 8/9/21 at 11:47 am to Jjdoc
That dude that Rittenhouse shot last year definitely died from covid.
Posted on 8/9/21 at 11:52 am to Jjdoc
quote:
Do we know the actual death count FROM Covid?
I thought you could easily use excess deaths over a 5-year average to work the actual death count.
The US has an an excess of 721,000 deaths since the pandemic started compared with the expected average. Some of which you could argue is non-pandemic-related or lockdown-related but it is far from the majority.
LINK
Therefore, using excess deaths, the rest of your points seem rather less impactful or correct considering it's calculating the *excess* number of deaths.
This post was edited on 8/9/21 at 11:52 am
Posted on 8/9/21 at 11:52 am to Jjdoc
The CDC recently stated that something like 2.6% of overall deaths attributed to CoviD have causes on the death certificates that cannot reasonably be contributed to CoviD.
The numbers get worse the younger you get, with 30% of the pediatric deaths counted as having causes that should not be contributed to CoviD.
The numbers get worse the younger you get, with 30% of the pediatric deaths counted as having causes that should not be contributed to CoviD.
quote:
A small proportion (9,638; 2.5%) of death certificates had co-occurring diagnosis codes that could not be plausibly categorized as either a chain-of-event or significant contributing condition. This finding was more frequent among decedents aged <18 years (64; 35.2%) and 18–29 years (145; 10.2%); these age groups represented only 0.4% (1,608) of all death certificates.
This post was edited on 8/9/21 at 11:58 am
Posted on 8/9/21 at 12:02 pm to Jjdoc
And given the widely disparate outcomes even among people of the same age group, how can "they" claim any particular effectiveness per person? You can glean a rough estimate over time (longer than a few months), but when they came out with 95% immediately upon authorization, I just shook my head. Literally no way to make that claim legitimately with this disease.
Posted on 8/9/21 at 2:29 pm to Jjdoc
Manipulated data for propaganda purposes is garbage data designed to mislead.
Posted on 8/9/21 at 2:52 pm to Jjdoc
quote:
Do we know the actual death count FROM Covid?
No. We do not. Every state in the USA counted all deaths as FROM covid if they tested positive.
2- What does that mean? Is there a difference?
What that means is that a death could have been from a car accident, but if they test you and you tested positive, the death was labeled as a Covid death.
Look man, they were not testing car crash victims for covid. Don't be stupid.
It is likely that the covid deaths were somewhat overcounted, however there is no compelling evidence that there was a material overcounting. It's always clowns talking about car crashes and similar stuff.
In the early days of the pandemic we did not even have enough tests to use for the obvious covid patients much less to go around testing cancer patients. And the fatality rate has gotten better, not worse, as one would expect if they were tesing random dying people.
Posted on 8/9/21 at 11:01 pm to Jjdoc
Since only 10 per 1 million have died from it in Nigeria where most everyone takes a weekly dose of HCQ that makes Africans smarter than Fauci and friends.
Posted on 8/10/21 at 12:16 am to Jjdoc
You are correct. And don't forget the inaccuracies of the test itself. 80% false positives, it cant distinguish between flu/cold/covid19.
Posted on 8/10/21 at 12:41 am to Jjdoc
Let's not even consider deaths for a minute.
How can the effectiveness of the vaccine be determined, in regards to helping to prevent infections, when the CDC stopped keeping track of covid positive individuals who did not require hospitalization?
I'm calling bs on those previous numbers.
How can the effectiveness of the vaccine be determined, in regards to helping to prevent infections, when the CDC stopped keeping track of covid positive individuals who did not require hospitalization?
quote:
Results showed that following the second dose of vaccine (the recommended number of doses), risk of infection was reduced by 90 percent two or more weeks after vaccination. Following a single dose of either vaccine, the participants’ risk of infection with SARS-CoV-2 was reduced by 80 percent two or more weeks after vaccination.
I'm calling bs on those previous numbers.
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