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re: All You Had To Do Was Critically Investigate 911 And None Of This Would Be Happening

Posted on 8/1/21 at 7:32 pm to
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 8/1/21 at 7:32 pm to
The interesting thing to me about you is you know enough to sniff out disinfo, but are in on the directed energy stuff, which I thought was obvious insane disinfo. But, that's why I kind of gave up on this stuff. I think most people in the "movement" were well-intentioned, but there was a lot of infighting, probably some of it meant to sow discord. I could never tell who to trust. Anyway, go get em, I think the official story is BS.
Posted by GeauxGutsy
Member since Jul 2017
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Posted on 8/1/21 at 7:37 pm to
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allrightX3


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Stay comfy.


This altar was here for the Q thread.



Posted by Sho Nuff
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 8/1/21 at 8:32 pm to
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rmnldr

You said you were a "truther". Does that mean you are not anymore, and what changed your mind if so? I am not a "truther" but I don't believe the govt report. I'm somewhere in the middle of this whole thing.
This post was edited on 8/1/21 at 8:34 pm
Posted by omegaman66
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Posted on 8/1/21 at 8:56 pm to
Posted by BBQSooner
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Posted on 8/1/21 at 9:14 pm to
Obvious troll is obvious
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 8/1/21 at 9:25 pm to
American Airlines livery on the ground at the Pentagon.



Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 8/1/21 at 9:26 pm to
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You said you were a "truther". Does that mean you are not anymore, and what changed your mind if so? I am not a "truther" but I don't believe the govt report. I'm somewhere in the middle of this whole thing.



At one point I was into 9/11 controlled demolition, Q-threads, etc.

For 9/11 it was that I could never back up the conspiratorial claims people make by looking at empirical evidence.

It’s the actual attack and the theories surrounding those events that we have obvious proof of that in my mind cannot be overturned. Every theory out there about controlled demolitions or CGI planes is easily debunked by just keeping an open mind and digging into the physics and construction involved. Doing so, you emerge understanding much more about the world around you and it was a fascinating trip for me.

Mind you, I emerged from my 9/11 truther period by the time I graduated high school. The Q stuff hooked me after I left college because I couldn’t understand why left-winged politicians did what they did and said what they said. I had faith that Trump and the good guys were taking down the “cabal” and that the pedophiles and oligarchs were being removed from power.

I emerged from that luckily around 2018 when so many things the Q threads talked about were just completely batshit insane and had no basis in reality and was clearly being pushed by people that had no understanding of physics or technology.

I still believe in Big Pharma, JFK theories, and sometimes I can dig Pearl Harbor and 9/11 theories.

The one I’m fully convinced of is the 2003 invasion of Iraq and I’ll die fully believing that the US Gov fabricated false evidence to stuff the pockets of defense contractors and the politicians that were working for them.

So, my point is. There’s a spectrum of conspiracy that is fine to believe in but once you past the demarcation line you begin to damage your head and life.

Not believing all of the government reports about 9/11 isn’t believing in a conspiracy theory, in my opinion. It is simply maintaining a healthy level of skepticism for a system (the government) which has been proven to carry out or plan conspiratorial acts to deceive the public before (Gulf of Tonkin).

At this point I’ve come to accept that it’s very rare for people in positions of power to actually care about their constituents or citizens and that has been proven throughout history. There is no perfect government system, there is no perfect economic theory, and there are no perfect people. Most people in power are selfish and greedy just as most normal people are. It’s just in our nature to gather and conserve as many resources as we can. The people that are generous and give much away are usually never ones to achieve and attain positions of power.

I’m damn near the point of nihilism and if it wasn’t for my faith that there is a God (which is fleeting some days), I would be a constant wreck everyday. I just try to live my life in my own world where I care for my family, friends, and my SO and control what I can control. I know I likely won’t ever be immensely successful in my life but a well-lived, humble life is all I ask for. I know this isn’t what you asked for but it is deeply intertwined to how a deep belief in conspiracy religion almost ruined my life.
This post was edited on 8/1/21 at 9:33 pm
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/1/21 at 10:54 pm to
So explain why they supposedly didn't find any of the black boxes? Working or destroyed they should have been found.

Why was there evidence of explosives if no charges were used?
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 8/1/21 at 11:02 pm to
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So explain why they supposedly didn't find any of the black boxes? Working or destroyed they should have been found.


From what I understand, they were found, and it was kept secret.

Why? I don’t know. It’s fishy. Possibly to cover up conspiracy or maybe merely incompetence of some sort.

quote:

Why was there evidence of explosives if no charges were used?


What are you referring to?
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/1/21 at 11:10 pm to
First question answered first. Will have to search for a link to the second question.

The black boxes were not from the airliners that supposedly hit the towers. I will see if I can refind pictures of one of the planes just before it hit. Undercarriage is incorrect.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22786 posts
Posted on 8/1/21 at 11:19 pm to
video link plane belly

link on explosives used in twin towers
This post was edited on 8/1/21 at 11:24 pm
Posted by BabylonNTing
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Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 8/1/21 at 11:19 pm to
Actually, if one watches the plane a few seconds before hitting from the footage from right side looking up at it, they could see left wing disappear behind a square shack type structure on top of building almost beside the tower.


Start watching at 20 seconds:

LINK

It wasn't a hologram aircraft, it was crappy CGI instead.
This post was edited on 8/1/21 at 11:23 pm
Posted by DagneyTaggert
Member since Sep 2016
180 posts
Posted on 8/1/21 at 11:23 pm to
LINK

Here it is. You will NOT find a more thorough, expert, exhaustive report on the matter!

Just watch and then you will know/see for yourself and have no further doubt. It is fascinating, irregardless who/what you think, feel or decide.

If you refuse to watch, can't handle it....then please refrain from debate & just (kidding ha ha) Shut the frick Up!
(you may have fuming cajun red arse now for telling you to S the F U, but will thank me for true - cher, if you watch)

LINK
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38242 posts
Posted on 8/1/21 at 11:25 pm to
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almost beside the tower.


It’s not. It’s in the foreground of the frame.

That building was not situated near either tower.

The planes left wing dips behind it because that unit on top of the building is far closer to the camera than the plane or the tower.
Posted by BabylonNTing
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Member since Jul 2021
140 posts
Posted on 8/1/21 at 11:27 pm to
That’s the dumbest explanation ever.

Keep trying!
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38242 posts
Posted on 8/1/21 at 11:30 pm to
I’ve seen the first video and it’s quite obvious that the plane was full of people and they obviously died as a result.

The second link: that’s not proof of explosives. Even if we take that at face value as an honest report it isn’t proof of explosives being planted or used to bring down any of the structures.

I’ve done extensive research into all of this. It’s really late and I would go link searching for you, but I can assure you that there is no concrete evidence that explosives were used.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38242 posts
Posted on 8/1/21 at 11:34 pm to
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That’s the dumbest explanation ever.

Keep trying!


This is the building you’re talking about.



It’s not beside the tower. It’s in front of the tower in reference to the camera location, and it’s much much shorter.

You’re seeing the wing go behind it because the camera is looking up at the tower and that box on top of the building gets between the line of sight between the camera and the left wing.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
38242 posts
Posted on 8/1/21 at 11:37 pm to
Break down your points instead of forcing me to watch long videos. It’s really late. And none of this stuff bothers me. I engage in conversation like this because I want to bring people back to seeing things how they actually are and not through a distorted lens.

I do this not to shame but to help enlighten
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
22786 posts
Posted on 8/1/21 at 11:46 pm to
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Firefighter reports of explosions, and of seeing “molten iron like in a foundry.” The petition states that the presence of molten iron would require temperatures higher than jet fuel and building contents could create when burned, but consistent with the use of the high tech explosive and incendiary thermite or thermate.

The presence of previously molten iron microspheres, which have been established by electron microscope analysis of WTC dust samples, by both government and independent scientists, is another phenomenon that would be scientifically impossible based on the burning of jet fuel and office contents alone.



Posted by BabylonNTing
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Member since Jul 2021
140 posts
Posted on 8/1/21 at 11:53 pm to
A big fail on your straw-man argument by circling a building in another pic instead of focusing on wing disappearing building shack in video I presented.

If mental gymnastics was an Olympic sport, you would win a gold medal.
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