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re: Looks like no rescheduling for the SEC this year
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:33 pm to skullhawk
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:33 pm to skullhawk
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If a team reaches a 85% vaccination rate, they don't have to go through testing or masking in buildings.
What a joke. If the concern is the spread of the virus, then percentage vaccinated should not matter. The vaccine does not stop you from contracting or transmitting the virus.
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:36 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
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Why? What is the purpose of that?
If a team doesn't have enough healthy players to play, of course, a forfeit should be the result or can be. But if a team can be fielded... what's the problem?
If the vaccine works... there is no reason to test.
Correct, they do work which is why at 85% Vaccine rates, there is not the requirement for regular testing and contact tracing protocols.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:37 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
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Why test at all under any percentage? Why is the NCAA involved?
Why would one be not able to play if they test positive? Clearly either the vaccine doesn't work and/or there is another agenda.
This is SEC Policy, nothing to do with the NCAA. Your NCAA statement is a red herring.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:37 pm to JKChesterton
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Correct, they do work which is why at 85% Vaccine rates, there is not the requirement for regular testing and contact tracing protocols.
So, if 85% get the vaccine, than the other 15% won't get the virus? But if only 80% get the vaccine, than the other 20% will get the virus?
There simply is no reason to test in mass if you believe the vaccine works.
This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:38 pm to Indefatigable
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What a joke. If the concern is the spread of the virus, then percentage vaccinated should not matter. The vaccine does not stop you from contracting or transmitting the virus.
It lowers death rates and it does prevent the spread of it as the large majority people who have the vaccine will not catch it.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:39 pm to JKChesterton
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Correct, they do work which is why at 85% Vaccine rates, there is not the requirement for regular testing and contact tracing protocols.
If the vaccine works, why does the NCAA or anyone else on earth care? Those who want the vaccine’s protection have already gotten it. Those who haven’t have made their choice.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:40 pm to Choot em Tiger
They are at 50% but claiming 40 more percent to get them to 90%
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:43 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
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o, if 85% get the vaccine, than the other 15% won't get the virus? But if only 80% get the vaccine, than the other 20% will get the virus?
There simply is no reason to test in mass if you believe the vaccine works.
If only half the population has the vaccine, you have half the population at risk. At 85% vaccinated you are 5% > that what medical experts indicate is the herd immunity number.
See Medical article from Johns Hopkins University. I would think we can agree they are more of an expert on Disease and Herd Immunity than you or me. So maybe the SEC Office has been in consultation with the leading Medical Researchers and the 85% number is a number that is based in research from leading Medical Schools in the Country (i.e. Johns Hopkins).
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Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:44 pm to JKChesterton
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If only half the population has the vaccine, you have half the population at risk.
“At risk” by their own choice. They should be allowed to make that choice.
Also herd immunity as a concept doesn’t apply to small populations like football teams that interact with broader society constantly. “Herd immunity” only applies in the macro sense.
Newsflash: we will NEVER reach 85% vaccinated across society.
This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:47 pm to Indefatigable
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“At risk” by their own choice. They should be allowed to make that choice.
Also herd immunity as a concept doesn’t apply to small populations like football teams that interact with broader society constantly. “Herd immunity” only applies in the macro sense.
Newsflash: we will NEVER reach 85% vaccinated across society.
Correct people have a choice, but if you play for LSU you can choose to get vaccinated or choose to not to and not play. Again, your choice.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:48 pm to JKChesterton
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If only half the population has the vaccine, you have half the population at risk. At 85% vaccinated you are 5% > that what medical experts indicate is the herd immunity number.
You don't reach herd immunity by having a team with 85% vaccination rate.
What does herd immunity have to do with anything? If you believe the vaccine works, mass testing is not needed.
This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:49 pm to JKChesterton
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Correct people have a choice, but if you play for LSU you can choose to get vaccinated or choose to not to and not play. Again, your choice.
One day you’ll look back and wonder why we didn’t just say no to these threshold items.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:49 pm to JKChesterton
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Correct people have a choice, but if you play for LSU you can choose to get vaccinated or choose to not to and not play. Again, your choice.
But that isn't the question, the question is why?
There is no reason to even test these kids if one believes the vaccine works.
- there is no reason to test them
- there is no reason to stop a positive player from playing, if they appear healthy
Unless one believes the vaccine doesn't work. The 85% vaccination rate threshold makes no sense what so ever.
This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:52 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
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You don't reach herd immunity by having a team with 85% vaccination rate. What does herd immunity have to do with anything?
If you believe the vaccine works, mass testing is not needed.
You make it highly, very highly, that an infected person will not infect another person. A football team is large enough for how the 85% number works at the Macro Level to the more micro level of a football operation.
So again, the 85% number seems to have a basis in Medical Research.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:54 pm to JKChesterton
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You make it highly, very highly, that an infected person will not infect another person. A football team is large enough for how the 85% number works at the Macro Level to the more micro level of a football operation.
So again, the 85% number seems to have a basis in Medical Research.
No it isn't, unless they all lived on an island.
CDC had infections rates so high that even with 100% complete lock downs... the virus would still continue.
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So again, the 85% number seems to have a basis in Medical Research.
Huh, herd immunity doesn't have anything to do with a team.
How about a class room? How about my home? But even if all this was true, the vaccinated person is protect IF YOU BELIEVE the vaccine works.
Clearly you don't think the vaccine works, and no you don't get herd immunity if you jab 85 out of 100 people that may or may not be on a team.
This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:57 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
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But that isn't the question, the question is why?
There is no reason to even test these kids if one believes the vaccine works.
- there is no reason to test them
- there is no reason to stop a positive player from playing, if they appear healthy
Unless one believes the vaccine doesn't work. The 85% vaccination rate threshold makes no sense what so ever.
No the vaccine works. So you don't believe vaccines work. The Small Pox vaccine? Polio Vaccine. Between the late 1950's and late 1970's, despite the USA and former Soviet Union being engaged in a Cold war, that turned warm in Vietnam, Governments worked to distribute the Small pox vaccine. That disease was totally eradicated. The Polio vaccine, same thing save two fundamentalist Muslim countries (Pakistan and Afghanistan) has also been eradicate.
So yes I do believe vaccines work including the COVID-19 one.
This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 7/19/21 at 1:58 pm to JKChesterton
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No the vaccine works.
If you believed it worked you wouldn't be spreading this nonsense.
If YOU believe this vaccine "works" than there is no reason to mass test.
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So yes I do believe vaccines work including the COVID-19 one.
Than there is no reason to mass test, it serves no purpose as the virus can't be stopped. If you are right, than the people getting the virus after infection won't be harmed, if they get the vaccine.
This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 7/19/21 at 2:02 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
A football team and operation operates in close quarters. Statistically a football team is large enough to where if 85% are vaccinated, and you have 100 plus players and coaches in the football ops, you are going to "reduce the probability" of major outbreaks.
If you don't come into contact with other people, you are not going to infect people. As for as LSU students, most have already had it I would predict. So in some sense, you probably have with respect to LSU students, some level of herd immunity already as far as a significant number getting it again.
Just state it, you are anti Vaccine. I am sure you think evolution is false, the earth is flat and the USA did not land on the Moon in July of 1969.
If you don't come into contact with other people, you are not going to infect people. As for as LSU students, most have already had it I would predict. So in some sense, you probably have with respect to LSU students, some level of herd immunity already as far as a significant number getting it again.
Just state it, you are anti Vaccine. I am sure you think evolution is false, the earth is flat and the USA did not land on the Moon in July of 1969.
Posted on 7/19/21 at 2:03 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
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If you believed it worked you wouldn't be spreading this nonsense.
If YOU believe this vaccine "works" than there is no reason to mass test.
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So yes I do believe vaccines work including the COVID-19 one. As of early June, it was a little more than 50%. That is the damn problem.
Than there is no reason to mass test, it serves no purpose as the virus can't be stopped. If you are right, than the people getting the virus after infection won't be harmed, if they get the vaccine.
How many people are still not vaccinated?
This post was edited on 7/19/21 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 7/19/21 at 2:06 pm to GeauxFightingTigers1
Please tell us you went to school in AL, or MS, or AK.
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