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re: Piers Morgan is about to out the officer that killed Ashlii Babbit
Posted on 7/7/21 at 8:54 am to Robin Masters
Posted on 7/7/21 at 8:54 am to Robin Masters
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I’ve never heard of “attempt to impede democracy” before and that seems like a bridge too far to me.
Oh I'm sure nobody on this board will agree, but if you believe the basis for the effort was illegitimate - and I think you can easily and reasonably do so - then it was an effort to interrupt the democratic process.
Now, some will probably argue that it differs from a coup or the like because they merely wanted to delay something until facts could come to light, investigation could be done, etc. and I think that's a legitimate consideration and probably true. But the reality is that most people involved on Jan 6 would not be dissuaded from their pursuit even with overwhelming evidence. They were emotionally committed to Trump being reelected and I think the "truth finding" element isn't reality.
But anyway, I said it was arguable and I think it is. I don't think "insurrection" is arguable for the reasons already stated.
Posted on 7/7/21 at 9:18 am to Pettifogger
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I'm sure nobody on this board will agree, but if you believe the basis for the effort was illegitimate - and I think you can easily and reasonably do so - then it was an effort to interrupt the democratic process.
Now, some will probably argue that it differs from a coup or the like because they merely wanted to delay something until facts could come to light, investigation could be done, etc. and I think that's a legitimate consideration and probably true. But the reality is that most people involved on Jan 6 would not be dissuaded from their pursuit even with overwhelming evidence. They were emotionally committed to Trump being reelected and I think the "truth finding" element isn't reality.
But anyway, I said it was arguable and I think it is. I don't think "insurrection" is arguable for the reasons already stated.
I hear what you are saying but I think (not a lawyer mind you) all of what you are implying should require some premeditated and organized action on at least a few co-conspirators as proof. Maybe that proof exists but absent that all you really have is a pissed off mob.
Posted on 7/7/21 at 12:01 pm to Pettifogger
quote:Absolutely false ... and stupid.
But the reality is that most people involved on Jan 6 would not be dissuaded from their pursuit even with overwhelming evidence.
Did you sleep thru the election?
Posted on 7/7/21 at 12:03 pm to Pettifogger
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They were emotionally committed to Trump being reelected and I think the "truth finding" element isn't reality.
Moron
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