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re: Piers Morgan is about to out the officer that killed Ashlii Babbit

Posted on 7/7/21 at 8:54 am to
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79518 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 8:54 am to
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I’ve never heard of “attempt to impede democracy” before and that seems like a bridge too far to me.



Oh I'm sure nobody on this board will agree, but if you believe the basis for the effort was illegitimate - and I think you can easily and reasonably do so - then it was an effort to interrupt the democratic process.

Now, some will probably argue that it differs from a coup or the like because they merely wanted to delay something until facts could come to light, investigation could be done, etc. and I think that's a legitimate consideration and probably true. But the reality is that most people involved on Jan 6 would not be dissuaded from their pursuit even with overwhelming evidence. They were emotionally committed to Trump being reelected and I think the "truth finding" element isn't reality.

But anyway, I said it was arguable and I think it is. I don't think "insurrection" is arguable for the reasons already stated.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
30189 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 9:18 am to
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I'm sure nobody on this board will agree, but if you believe the basis for the effort was illegitimate - and I think you can easily and reasonably do so - then it was an effort to interrupt the democratic process.

Now, some will probably argue that it differs from a coup or the like because they merely wanted to delay something until facts could come to light, investigation could be done, etc. and I think that's a legitimate consideration and probably true. But the reality is that most people involved on Jan 6 would not be dissuaded from their pursuit even with overwhelming evidence. They were emotionally committed to Trump being reelected and I think the "truth finding" element isn't reality.

But anyway, I said it was arguable and I think it is. I don't think "insurrection" is arguable for the reasons already stated.



I hear what you are saying but I think (not a lawyer mind you) all of what you are implying should require some premeditated and organized action on at least a few co-conspirators as proof. Maybe that proof exists but absent that all you really have is a pissed off mob.

Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124687 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 12:01 pm to
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But the reality is that most people involved on Jan 6 would not be dissuaded from their pursuit even with overwhelming evidence.
Absolutely false ... and stupid.

Did you sleep thru the election?
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
20603 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 12:03 pm to
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They were emotionally committed to Trump being reelected and I think the "truth finding" element isn't reality.


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