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Military members to “quit” if faced with mandatory vaccinations

Posted on 7/5/21 at 2:31 pm
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 7/5/21 at 2:31 pm
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Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) said he was informed by some members of the U.S. military that they would leave if the armed forces mandated a COVID-19 vaccine, coming after a report claimed Army headquarters told commanders to prepare for mandatory vaccinations in September.

“I’ve been contacted by members of our voluntary military who say they will quit if the COVID vaccine is mandated. I introduced HR 3860 to prohibit any mandatory requirement that a member of the Armed Forces receive a vaccination against COVID-19. It now has 24 sponsors,” Massie wrote on Twitter. He didn’t provide more details.


This could be a tremendous gift to the left - weed out free thinkers from the military.




Posted by Hayekian serf
GA
Member since Dec 2020
3559 posts
Posted on 7/5/21 at 2:34 pm to
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free thinkers from the military.



There aren’t too many of those
Posted by Thundercles
Mars
Member since Sep 2010
6031 posts
Posted on 7/5/21 at 2:34 pm to
I really wonder what provision they could "quit" under. I spent a few years in the Air Force and that contract wasn't really one you can just walk away from.

I also spent a few months out of the year not getting the flu shot solely out or principle and never faced any consequences.
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 7/5/21 at 2:38 pm to
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I really wonder what provision they could "quit" under.


Me too, that’s why I kept the author’s quotes around the word.

This post was edited on 7/5/21 at 2:39 pm
Posted by Thundercles
Mars
Member since Sep 2010
6031 posts
Posted on 7/5/21 at 2:42 pm to
For most of the shots they gave us you simply didn't have a choice. Refusal would be something like "failure to __________ (I forgot the verbiage they use)" and they'd just keep upping the punishment until you got a dishonorable discharge (read: they kick you out).

Since this is still under emergency authorization I imagine it's a grey area for the foreseeable future. For just a moment I wish I were still in so I could lead this fight and be a thorn in everyone's side.
Posted by Trevaylin
south texas
Member since Feb 2019
8506 posts
Posted on 7/5/21 at 2:43 pm to



Military personnel are subject to be located in remote locations that require immunizations regardless of covid. All military personnel should be covid vaccinated, including secretaries and DC staff
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 7/5/21 at 2:50 pm to
There are only two ways to "quit" that don't involve less than honorable discharges. Both take 6 month to a year to process and require approval.

UQR (Unqualified Resignation) and Retirement.
Posted by TNTigerman
James Island
Member since Sep 2012
11327 posts
Posted on 7/5/21 at 2:51 pm to
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This could be a tremendous gift to the left

and China, and Russia, and Iran.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 7/5/21 at 2:53 pm to
It's a moot point anyway. Requiring the COVID shot before FDA approval violates Nuremberg.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5036 posts
Posted on 7/5/21 at 2:54 pm to
Military service may not be the best decision if you are overly protective of your body and what may be asked of it. These conscientious objectors don’t have a terribly sympathetic case here.
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
11988 posts
Posted on 7/5/21 at 2:56 pm to
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These conscientious objectors don’t have a terribly sympathetic case here.



Only a psychopath thinks that about our military
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
81611 posts
Posted on 7/5/21 at 2:57 pm to
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These conscientious objectors


Not what that phrase means.
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
8934 posts
Posted on 7/5/21 at 2:58 pm to
It's bullshite. All recruits get all types of shots when they go through basic training. If they get deployed they get more shots that are region specific.

They could quit in the form of getting kicked out by refusing and get court martialed for disobeying orders and get a BCD. It would start probably with an article 15 and 30-60 days in correctional custody to think about the bad decision that is being made. If they still refuse then the "frick up the rest of my life" process begins.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
8251 posts
Posted on 7/5/21 at 3:00 pm to
Probably best they use the Ali defense and cite religious objections.

The left will rally behind them like they did Ali.
Posted by tiggerfan02 2021
HSV
Member since Jan 2021
3525 posts
Posted on 7/5/21 at 3:01 pm to
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It's a moot point anyway. Requiring the COVID shot before FDA approval violates Nuremberg.



Like anyone in DC gives a shite about the Nuremberg agreement, the Constitution, the UMCJ, the laws already on the books...etc...
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 7/5/21 at 3:09 pm to
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I also spent a few months out of the year not getting the flu shot solely out or principle and never faced any consequences.


The flu shot wasn't politicized like the Kung Flu shot.
Posted by ned nederlander
Member since Dec 2012
5036 posts
Posted on 7/5/21 at 3:13 pm to
Well to be fair if an enlisted person does refuse to be vaccinated once it is mandated their actions won’t be labeled as “quitting” either.
Posted by CU_Tigers4life
Georgia
Member since Aug 2013
8934 posts
Posted on 7/5/21 at 3:21 pm to
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It's a moot point anyway. Requiring the COVID shot before FDA approval violates Nuremberg.


First, you need to familiarize yourself better with this doctrine that has been spreading around on social media.

Secondly the US Constitution and the UCMJ supersedes this document.
This post was edited on 7/5/21 at 3:21 pm
Posted by pecanridge
South
Member since Apr 2009
1294 posts
Posted on 7/5/21 at 3:25 pm to
JAMA- Myocarditis after vaccine

I don't blame them one bit. Experimental vaccine could harm worse than acquiring Covid
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
25982 posts
Posted on 7/5/21 at 3:29 pm to
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This could be a tremendous gift to the left - weed out free thinkers from the military.

If the right wingers make it a point to ignore or resist routine orders and health policies, they aren’t fit for military service.
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