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re: Huge and somewhat overlooked play from last night

Posted on 6/8/21 at 2:01 pm to
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 2:01 pm to
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It was one of those plays where PM's philosophy of being ultra aggressive on the bases paid off. It probably wasn't a great play to try to score on. The ball was hit relatively hard to a first baseman playing up a little. But Dugas never hesitated and exerted max effort on the slide.

Run that same play 10 times and Dugas probably gets thrown out 5. It was a risk that paid off in a HUGE way.




With 1 out, I thought it was the right call to send him. If you hold him the second out is going to be recorded at first, and you're relying on a two out hit, not knowing, of course, that a balk would ensue. And if he gets thrown out you still have a runner in scoring position. Now, if the ball had been hit so hard that it was obvious Dugas would be out by ten feet, you probably shouldn't send him, though some would argue that you make the guy make a throw in that pressure situation and see if he screws up.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 2:29 pm to
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With 1 out, I thought it was the right call to send him. If you hold him the second out is going to be recorded at first, and you're relying on a two out hit, not knowing, of course, that a balk would ensue. And if he gets thrown out you still have a runner in scoring position. Now, if the ball had been hit so hard that it was obvious Dugas would be out by ten feet, you probably shouldn't send him, though some would argue that you make the guy make a throw in that pressure situation and see if he screws up.


You need to understand that all this is predetermined before the ball is pitched.
The manager analyzes the situation and tells the runner to go on contact. That means go on anything not in the sir.
No one reads the play. No one analyzes how hard the ball is it or who it is hit to. The base runner goes as soon as the ball is it. The base coach doesn’t do anything. There’s no time for that.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28494 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 2:30 pm to
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With 1 out, I thought it was the right call to send him. If you hold him the second out is going to be recorded at first, and you're relying on a two out hit, not knowing, of course, that a balk would ensue. And if he gets thrown out you still have a runner in scoring position. Now, if the ball had been hit so hard that it was obvious Dugas would be out by ten feet, you probably shouldn't send him, though some would argue that you make the guy make a throw in that pressure situation and see if he screws up.


Certainly it was a calculated and understandable risk (particularly given the two guys who would be batting next).

Objectively it probably wasn't a great ball on which to try to score. But the aggressive approach of leaving on contact...coupled with the slight hesitation of the OU first baseman gave Dugas the literal split second necessary to beat the tag.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 6/9/21 at 5:16 am to
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With 1 out, I thought it was the right call to send him. If you hold him the second out is going to be recorded at first, and you're relying on a two out hit

Excellent analysis. Thanks.
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