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re: Are orchestral conductors full of shite?

Posted on 5/25/21 at 12:30 am to
Posted by johnqpublic
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Posted on 5/25/21 at 12:30 am to
Not sure what you are seeing. I watched the first 30 seconds of the first movement. Muti gives at least 10 cues.

I watched some of the last movement. There is a section where he stops conducting for a bit. My conducting teacher always stressed "first do no harm". These are professional orchestral musicians. Most have likely performed this piece dozens of times. They will play fine once you start them. They know how to be an ensemble. So why wave your arms if they are playing it the way you want? Muti then starts conducting cues and downbeats, then returns to full conducting when the piece gets busier with greater subdivisions.
Posted by THRILLHO
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Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 5/25/21 at 12:40 am to


Shockingly detailed answers from someone named "johnqpublic"! Seriously, I knew that they weren't "full of shite", but I questioned how much they actually controlled the orchestra. It looks similar to an NBA coach kind of "chilling" when his team is up 20+.

Also, I'm legit pissed that I didn't check out the Chicago orchestra when I visited a few years ago. That was a phenomenal performance.

One question: it seems like there are a lot of people that don't get an opportunity to change the page because they never really stop playing. Do they have the entire performance memorized? Do they have the notes printed smaller so that they don't have to change pages?
Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
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Posted on 5/25/21 at 10:16 am to
quote:

Not sure what you are seeing. I watched the first 30 seconds of the first movement. Muti gives at least 10 cues.

I watched some of the last movement. There is a section where he stops conducting for a bit. My conducting teacher always stressed "first do no harm". These are professional orchestral musicians. Most have likely performed this piece dozens of times. They will play fine once you start them. They know how to be an ensemble. So why wave your arms if they are playing it the way you want? Muti then starts conducting cues and downbeats, then returns to full conducting when the piece gets busier with greater subdivisions.




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