re: It's kind of ridiculous that the grizzlies are in the play in game and we aren't

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played college for 3+ years

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Doesn’t automatically make them low ceiling players. Those dudes are all late picks and contributing to a playoff team. If it were that easy to find 2nd round players that contribute then everyone in the league would draft “low ceiling players”.

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You knew what you were getting from Bane, Tillman, Brooks (tho he’s improved), Clarke, etc. all guys who have played college for 3+ years

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i prefer that.

i think its a gm style.

know what you are getting.
and not hope athlete is willing and able to learn.
it takes real discipline and a good coach.

morant is interesting case.
could not shoot.
but gifted passer and gifted athlete.
if he learned 3 pt shot the pick payed off.
he still doesnt have a jumper. same as zion.
they get by on physical gifts.
if either one can do ordinary jumpers some day that one is near impossible to cover.