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re: If you weren’t FOR Trump in 2020, you were for THIS
Posted on 5/12/21 at 10:18 am to Toomer Deplorable
Posted on 5/12/21 at 10:18 am to Toomer Deplorable
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Trump’s idea of draining the Swamp was simply filling it with Swamp critters of his own choosing.
100 percent.
He should've cleaned house from day 1 of all DC trash. He should've made "giving power back to the states" his anthem and made most of his hires from states.
His attorney general should've been a Red State AG with no DC experience. His FBI head, the same. And on and on and on.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 10:35 am to Y.A. Tittle
There was not a single policy position Trump had that I disagreed with.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 1:15 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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His attorney general should've been a Red State AG with no DC experience
In defense of Trump, he thought he was getting such an ally in Sessions —
a Senator from a Deep Red State in the Deepest Red region of the country.
Yet Session’s utter unwillingness (or inability as the case may be) to actually fight and expose the utter corruptness of the Swamp only further illustrates the point: every corridor of true political power in this nation is hard-wired to perpetuate the legitimacy of the existing power structure above all other matters.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 1:41 pm to Big Jim Slade
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The world is acting like the class when the teacher leaves and a substitute teacher fills in.
thats a hell of an analogy... bravo...
Posted on 5/12/21 at 1:41 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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I mean, a guy got elected and tried to shake things up some and all you did was snipe about him because he wasn't some sort of complete philosophical ideal. How many years should we keep hoping that unicorn comes along or even thinking it might instead? Moving incrementally beats not moving at all, and certainly beats plunging off a cliff - and here we find ourselves.
In my estimation, Trump is the closest this country has ever come to electing a 3rd party candidate. Trump was indeed a RINO — and I mean that as the highest of compliments.
Trump didn’t just open the Overton Window on the reluctance of conservatives to criticize the Pentagon, he blew out that damn wall with a howitzer. Indeed, Trump’s greatest legacy was exposing the utter corruptibility of our nation’s entire national security apparatus.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 1:42 pm to Tantal
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I never bought into the whole Cult of Personality surrounding Trump like some did; however, from a purely policy perspective, he's been the best President of my lifetime by far.
its not a cult...its trust... based on your last sentence...
name another president thats followed through on his promises..
Posted on 5/12/21 at 2:49 pm to TigerFan55555
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its not a cult...its trust... based on your last sentence...
name another president thats followed through on his promises..
Right. My point being is that I don't do Twitter and don't hang on his every word like some people do. I just look at policies and results, which were exceptional. Anyone looking to ANY politician as the Messiah is misguided.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 3:05 pm to Tantal
It's pretty culty for many.
But I voted for him. I don't know about the best President of my lifetime, but it was refreshing in many ways. My favorite thing about Trump was his willingness to question and depart from the "swamp's" conventional wisdom, which often led eventually to everyone just kind of going - well yeah, why didn't we do this before?
Unfortunately, Trump the man is highly flawed and it was constantly two steps forward one step back. We can blame some of that on media, but a lot of it rests with his own vanity/narcissism. Trump left a lot of things unfinished - attributable both to his own inability to finish/lead and the complete absence of help in many cases.
Ideally we'd find someone who will use the Trump playbook without having his entire sense of worth connected to said playbook. Remains to be seen if that's possible, but I like what I'm hearing from a Trump-influenced DeSantis.
But I voted for him. I don't know about the best President of my lifetime, but it was refreshing in many ways. My favorite thing about Trump was his willingness to question and depart from the "swamp's" conventional wisdom, which often led eventually to everyone just kind of going - well yeah, why didn't we do this before?
Unfortunately, Trump the man is highly flawed and it was constantly two steps forward one step back. We can blame some of that on media, but a lot of it rests with his own vanity/narcissism. Trump left a lot of things unfinished - attributable both to his own inability to finish/lead and the complete absence of help in many cases.
Ideally we'd find someone who will use the Trump playbook without having his entire sense of worth connected to said playbook. Remains to be seen if that's possible, but I like what I'm hearing from a Trump-influenced DeSantis.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 3:25 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
quote:Jimmy Carter tried that and it was a huge disaster. Someone on the staff has to know how Washington works. But, I agree. He should have gotten rid of a bunch of Obama appointees and those right beneath them. He got bad advice from people that did not have America's interest first but instead, their own self-preservation.
He should've cleaned house from day 1 of all DC trash. He should've made "giving power back to the states" his anthem and made most of his hires from states.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 3:36 pm to Pettifogger
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Unfortunately, Trump the man is highly flawed and it was constantly two steps forward one step back.
And for all his faults, Trump received more votes of any Republican in history. Trump not only captured his 2016 base, he greatly expanded upon it by over 12 million votes.
Trump indeed received more votes in a presidential election ever with the exception of the dementia ward escapee — whose vote count was padded by untold millions of fraudulent votes.
And not a damn thing is going to be done about this unprecedented fraud. Think long and hard about that next time you step in a voting booth to pull the lever for a Repube.
Posted on 5/12/21 at 4:17 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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There’s really no pretending you “were above it all” and you didn’t like “any of em.” I mean, I guess you can pretend, but that’s all it is - make believe.
It was truly a “binary” choice between some normalcy and utter disaster. There was no third box, whether you like it or not. Good job.
All this
Posted on 5/12/21 at 7:58 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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There’s really no pretending you “were above it all” and you didn’t like “any of em.” I mean, I guess you can pretend, but that’s all it is - make believe
A critically accurate reference that includes those who displayed a level of hysterical hatred and contempt for Trump that we didn't even see aimed at the most Left of the Dems who have run for the office.
For some it included the smug implication that it was because Trump wasn't some idyllic combination of Churchill, Burke, W.J. Bryan, Locke, and Montesquieu.
After over the years of having to march out and force ourselves to vote for the likes of the Bushes, Dole, McCain, and Romney.
Then after he won and they got an inkling of his approach to governing nationally they seemed to do a 180.
Specifically, the Rogues Gallery in the so-calld Right media, e.g., Levin, Beck, Berry, Kessler, Sexton, Erickson, Lowry with the Nat'l Review and others.
Was this an epiphany, recognizing an unavoidable reality that we were on the edge of the abyss, and there was no other option.
Or was it merely temporizing, that is, complying with time and occasion in what was more of an attempt at recouping lost viewers/listeners/readers.
If one goes by Lowry it's the latter, since after Jan. 6 he couldn't wait to attack Trump. Or maybe he just experienced an unepected "relapse."
But de Toledano and Buckley must be turning over now with who's running what they founded.
Most of them tried to give us Cruz, which if successful we'd now be in the 5th year of this dystopian slouch instead of at least having a brief respite from it for four years.
Again, what category befits those who in effect "lent comfort and aid to the enemy" and gave them added confidence in their crusade against Trump.
As if they needed any.
At least Liz, G. Will, Lowry and others on the so-called Right never wavered in their hysterical hatred and contempt.
Those are the ones with "real character" that the Right should be so proud of, and would be hard pressed to do without.
This post was edited on 5/13/21 at 8:44 am
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