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This Extended Unemployment and Labor Force Shortage
Posted on 5/6/21 at 8:18 am
Posted on 5/6/21 at 8:18 am
I believe the Dems are hell bent on keeping this thing extended as long as they can because they can force companies to pay higher wages to get labor back. They are effectively increasing minimum wage since they can't do it through legislation.
I was told that a local employer, who used to pay a position $9-$10/hour is paying $1000 sign on bonuses and $14-$15/hour just so they can get employees.
I was told that a local employer, who used to pay a position $9-$10/hour is paying $1000 sign on bonuses and $14-$15/hour just so they can get employees.
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Posted on 5/6/21 at 8:30 am to anc
Sanderson Farms is paying $18 an hour for chicken catchers.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 8:37 am to No Colors
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Sanderson Farms is paying $18 an hour for chicken catchers.
Do you know what they are paying rooster kickers? I've gotten pretty good at it. My uncle got a new rooster that comes after everybody who goes over to his house. I got him real good the other day, he was walking sideways for a bit.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 8:38 am to anc
I fail to see a problem with workers having access to jobs with higher wages.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 8:40 am to auggie
I ducking hate roosters. Until he became dinner, one would terrorize me relentlessly on the way to the bus and on the way back. I was a wee lad and used a metal trash can lid as a shield and sticks as swords.
Never complained.
Then my grandma told my grandpa and that Sunday we had fresh chicken.
Best meal of my life.
Never complained.
Then my grandma told my grandpa and that Sunday we had fresh chicken.
Best meal of my life.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 8:50 am to anc
The business owners I know in Louisiana and Ohio are truly struggling. The offer of free money and couch potatoeing seems to be the winner.
My business-owning friends have decent-to-good wages to offer, but as Rush Limbaugh would say, its hard to compete with Santa Claus.
My business-owning friends have decent-to-good wages to offer, but as Rush Limbaugh would say, its hard to compete with Santa Claus.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 8:53 am to Damone
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I fail to see a problem with workers having access to jobs with higher wages.
In a natural setting, you would be correct. When the competition is the government paying for laziness, the only way one would fail to see a problem is if they have never had to sign the FRONT of a paycheck. I suspect that is you.
This post was edited on 5/6/21 at 9:03 am
Posted on 5/6/21 at 8:54 am to anc
This shite has almost nothing to do with unemployment.
Turns out approximately 0% of people want to make biscuits at McDonalds at 5am on a Sunday for any amount of money. You can drive for Uber Eats or Door Dash whenever you want for the same money or take customer service calls for Amazon naked in a beanbag chair for double the money.
Labor shortage predated Covid by at least 3 years.
Turns out approximately 0% of people want to make biscuits at McDonalds at 5am on a Sunday for any amount of money. You can drive for Uber Eats or Door Dash whenever you want for the same money or take customer service calls for Amazon naked in a beanbag chair for double the money.
Labor shortage predated Covid by at least 3 years.
This post was edited on 5/6/21 at 8:55 am
Posted on 5/6/21 at 8:54 am to anc
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They are effectively increasing minimum wage
That is exactly what they are doing and the DS on both sides is complicit.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 8:58 am to Damone
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I fail to see a problem with workers having access to jobs with higher wages.
Now Damone, tell the class who pays those higher wages. When you're done with that, tell the class why you don't already voluntarily pay $27 for that Big Mac and fries, if you think it's such a damn brilliant idea. Wouldn't that be giving workers access to jobs with higher wages, Damone? Or do you really not give a shite about workers having access to jobs with higher wages?
Posted on 5/6/21 at 8:59 am to Muthsera
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Turns out approximately 0% of people want to make biscuits at McDonalds at 5am on a Sunday for any amount of money.
I accidentally upvoted you. Your post is nonsense. In a world where government payments, subsidies, free phones, discounted internet, free school lunches... in a world where those are curtailed, and people actually HAVE to work to pay for the responsibilities they incur, you'd have tens and hundreds of thousands CLAMORING to make biscuits at McDonalds at 5am on a Sunday.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 9:01 am to anc
If these workers that were "nobly" forgoing employment were smart they would get the Job and lock in the higher wage. These wages will go down
This post was edited on 5/6/21 at 9:35 am
Posted on 5/6/21 at 9:04 am to auggie
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Do you know what they are paying rooster kickers? I've gotten pretty good at it. My uncle got a new rooster that comes after everybody who goes over to his house. I got him real good the other day, he was walking sideways for a bit.
Why would anyone downvote this?
Posted on 5/6/21 at 9:06 am to JPinLondon
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In a natural setting, you would be correct. When the competition is the government paying for laziness, the only way one would fail to see a problem is if they have never had to sign the FRONT of a check. I suspect that is you.
Maybe if these employers want to keep their employees they should learn how to compete and be flexible to market factors. Pay employees fair wages and that will "incentivize" them to work and POOF no labor shortage. Do you think people want to work the fryer or be a line cook at a restaurant because of their love of work? They need to eat and have a roof over their heads. IF you want to call it "laziness" when someone decides it makes more sense to stay home and get paid than work some menial, demeaning service job, then so be it. It's not that simple.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 9:09 am to anc
The Statute of Labourers, was issued after the great plague of the Black Death, which raged in Europe from 1347 to 1349.
"The same fields remained to be tilled, the same manual labour to be performed; but a large proportion of the labourers had died, and the rest could command what wages they pleased. Edward III, to stop this evil, issued this rather Draconian decree."
"The same fields remained to be tilled, the same manual labour to be performed; but a large proportion of the labourers had died, and the rest could command what wages they pleased. Edward III, to stop this evil, issued this rather Draconian decree."
Posted on 5/6/21 at 9:10 am to anc
Just dropped some clothes off at the cleaners and the owner was working the counter himself. Said he can’t find help (which he’s never had a problem with before Xiden). My bro-in-law is the same with his lawn care operation. He has 4 vacancies he can’t fill.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 9:11 am to No Colors
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Sanderson Farms is paying $18 an hour for chicken catchers.
And of course, none of these higher prices will be passed down to the customer and we won’t feel a thing.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 9:11 am to JPinLondon
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I accidentally upvoted you. Your post is nonsense. In a world where government payments, subsidies, free phones, discounted internet, free school lunches... in a world where those are curtailed, and people actually HAVE to work to pay for the responsibilities they incur, you'd have tens and hundreds of thousands CLAMORING to make biscuits at McDonalds at 5am on a Sunday
Just like all the children clamoring to go down the coal shaft back in 1899, right?
Businesses have to consider the totality of employee experience when attracting labor:
- What are you paying?
- What does the labor entail?
- How flexible are the time demands?
- What does management and client interaction look like for employees?
Low skill, low wage jobs mostly have had poor answers for all of these questions for a very long time.
My local garden center has no problems attracting workers and they don't pay dick, but they have reasonable business hours, nice clients, good management.
The national retailer I manage hasn't been able to hire anyone worth a shite in almost 5 years. We don't pay dick, force employees to work every holiday and weekend at lengthy hours, customers are the biggest assholes on the planet, and corporate leadership is awful.
The paradigm has changed and there are too many options for remote work or gig economy work to be a shitty job with shitty pay and a shitty experience.
I've been in retail management for almost 10 years. When we got furloughed last year due to Covid, we didn't have ONE SINGLE EMPLOYEE not come off unemployment when we reopened. Half the staff took a paycut from unemployment to work the whole time. College kids and young adults want to work, they just don't want to work where businesses need them.
Posted on 5/6/21 at 9:13 am to No Colors
Great cardio too
Posted on 5/6/21 at 9:13 am to lsu2006
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IF you want to call it "laziness" when someone decides it makes more sense to stay home and get paid than work some menial, demeaning service job, then so be it. It's not that simple.
Your way of thinking is what dooms a society. The fact that you think it is government's place to compete with businesses to keep unskilled labor AWAY from the workforce is beyond moronic.
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