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re: Archbishop of San Francisco - Pastoral Letter mentioning pro abortion politicians
Posted on 5/2/21 at 10:53 am to RemyLeBeau
Posted on 5/2/21 at 10:53 am to RemyLeBeau
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This excommunication of Catholic politicians who support abortion should be a hill for the Catholic church to die on.
Yes!
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Posted on 5/2/21 at 12:21 pm to Bulldogblitz
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I dated one of these CINOs for a short time. She explained that as long as she wasn't getting an abortion or performing one, she was "good". Being in favor of abortion were other people's choices, so who was she to deny them their right to choose.
This. You can be pro-life in a 70% pro-choice country and people will still respect it. It doesn’t make you any less pro-life.
Posted on 5/2/21 at 12:37 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
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Sadly it is primarily due to muddying the waters teachings of certain bishops.
www.churchmilitant.com does a good job of exposing wolves in sheeps clothing clergy.
good priests need support and prayers with the commies and the predators sharing the ranks of the priesthood.
Posted on 5/2/21 at 12:38 pm to TDsngumbo
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This is why I just can’t, for the life of me, understand how anyone who calls themselves a Catholic, can vote for a single democrat. God makes no distinction between those who perform abortion and those who support it in any way.
As a Catholic, voting democrat would scare the shite out of me for what is to come in the afterlife.
I feel this way too.
Also, if someone is willing to kill an inconvenient but innocent baby, there's nothing they won't do.
Posted on 5/2/21 at 1:25 pm to TDsngumbo
quote:Should they vote for the Republicans who love berating single mothers who "pop out" kids and receive welfare? There is one way to stop abortion: Respect, care, and listen to young mothers.
This is why I just can’t, for the life of me, understand how anyone who calls themselves a Catholic, can vote for a single democrat.
Posted on 5/2/21 at 1:36 pm to mmcgrath
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Respect, care, and listen to young mothers.
No, that’s the opposite of what we should do.
A collapse in personal virtue is why we have so many single mothers. Coddling people will only make it worse.
Posted on 5/2/21 at 2:12 pm to Mellow Drama
So does my friend Dr. Taylor Marshall.
Posted on 5/2/21 at 6:23 pm to Lima Whiskey
quote:So you want to shame women into getting abortions. Duly noted.
No, that’s the opposite of what we should do.
A collapse in personal virtue is why we have so many single mothers. Coddling people will only make it worse.
Posted on 5/2/21 at 7:08 pm to mmcgrath
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There is one way to stop abortion: Respect, care, and listen to young mothers.
This is exactly what prolife pregnancy centers do. They help the moms get on their feet and do it in a kind, nonjudgmental way. The people who work those clinics are heroes.
Posted on 5/2/21 at 7:14 pm to mmcgrath
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Should they vote for the Republicans who love berating single mothers who "pop out" kids and receive welfare?
Really? Not this one. Not any of the ones I know either. Do not confuse a comment on a message board as a direct message to a pregnant woman berating her, that's pure straw, unless you're going to out yourself as a poor unwed pregnant woman.
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There is one way to stop abortion: Respect, care, and listen to young mothers.
Nah. Its to get to them before they become "young mothers".
Posted on 5/2/21 at 7:18 pm to mmcgrath
Putting word in other people’s mouths, you’re only lying to yourself, and admitting how bankrupt you are. And your inability to defend your positions and values.
It says nothing about me.
It says nothing about me.
Posted on 5/2/21 at 7:41 pm to Mellow Drama
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Also, if someone is willing to kill an inconvenient but innocent baby, there's nothing they won't do.
Truer words have never been typed.
Posted on 5/2/21 at 7:45 pm to mmcgrath
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Should they vote for the Republicans who love berating single mothers who "pop out" kids and receive welfare? There is one way to stop abortion: Respect, care, and listen to young mothers.
Name a single fricking Republican politician who has actually done that and give factual examples of them doing so. I have a feeling your comment is based more on your perception of what republicans say and believe when it comes to young single mothers who have multiple children on welfare than on actual evidence.
Republicans want to end the cycle that results in single mothers having multiple children on welfare and they berate the environment that led to it, not the birthing of welfare babies. We would 100% of the time rather see and single mother have a child then put it up for adoption as opposed to continuing the cycle that costs society billions of dollars each year.
The fact that you believe that republicans berate the single mother instead of the system/environment that leads to continuation of the welfare society is a testament to the level of success that the media and pop culture has achieved in regards to political brain washing.
Posted on 5/2/21 at 7:56 pm to Mid Iowa Tiger
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For example, Bernadin’s (a wolve is sheep’s clothing most definitely) and his “Seamless Garmet” BS. Teachings like that give grace evil just enough cover to be perpetuated.
Most of the bullshite in today’s American Catholic Church can be traced back to Cardinal Bernardin’s oversized influence during the 1970s and 80s.
Posted on 5/2/21 at 7:57 pm to mmcgrath
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So you want to shame women into getting abortions. Duly noted.
No, we want to stop them from getting fricked by every dick and popping out kids in the first place.
Posted on 5/2/21 at 8:13 pm to Ace Midnight
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Also, if someone is willing to kill an inconvenient but innocent baby, there's nothing they won't do.
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Truer words have never been typed.
I don't mean to rub salt in the wounds of women who regret their abortions, and men who regret their lost fatherhood.
It's just those strident supporters of abortion who also do things like steal elections. Or burn down buildings and call it "peaceful protesting." Or doxx people until they lose their livelihoods. Or threaten a jury to render an across the board guilty verdict because they're afraid of a mob.
If they'd get rid of another human who is inconveniencing them then they'll have no qualms about getting rid of YOU.
Posted on 5/2/21 at 9:08 pm to Mellow Drama
Man, this board can be refreshing sometimes. Thank God
Posted on 5/2/21 at 11:49 pm to Mellow Drama
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Such a situation is a cause of scandal to many of the faithful.
Because we are dealing with public figures and public examples of cooperation in moral evil, this correction can also take the public form of exclusion from the reception of Holy Communion. As seen above, this discipline has been exercised throughout our history, going back to the New Testament. When other avenues are exhausted, the only recourse a pastor has left is the public medicine of temporary exclusion from the Lord’s Table. This is a bitter medicine, but the gravity of the evil of abortion can sometimes warrant it. Speaking for myself, I always keep before me the words from the prophet Ezekiel: “When I say to the wicked, ‘You wicked, you must die,’ and you do not speak up to warn the wicked about their ways, they shall die in their sins, but I will hold you responsible for their blood” (Ez 33:8). I tremble that if I do not forthrightly challenge Catholics under my pastoral care who advocate for abortion, both they and I will have to answer to God for innocent blood.
Finally speaking the truth. Better late than never. 
Hope he is not removed. This is a grave scandal, and better WARN the wicked or blood is on your hands. Where are the remaining bishops in the US? Are they participating in the wickedness of these politicians and not warning them. May God help them if they die. It will not turn out well for the bishops or priests that did not provide the pastoral care these politicians need and the congregation needs so they are not scandalized.
Posted on 5/3/21 at 7:21 am to obdobd918
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Where are the remaining bishops in the US?
They've been kissing Dem arse for the past 50 years.
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