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re: Ahmaud Arbery had a history of claiming to be a jogger to cover for criminal activities.

Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:11 am to
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
29731 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:11 am to
White on black. Black on white. White on white. Black on black. A crime is a crime . Attempting to deprive another person of their liberty without proper lawful sanction or due process is against the law. This is what happened in this case.

The McMichaels have to go down because.....they committed a CAPITAL CRIME, a frickng felony.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:13 am to
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The McMichaels have to go down because.....they committed a CAPITAL CRIME, a frickng felony.
Not so much. A serious felony certainly, but not a capital crime.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
432266 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:18 am to
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Not so much. A serious felony certainly, but not a capital crime.


which crime are we talking about? the underlying felonies or the felony murder? b/c i think felony murder is a capital offense in GA
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
21054 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:19 am to
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The Defense team had spent many months meticulously gathering this data, and they filed it 30-Dec. Copy of Pleading

Yes, you would think SOMEONE would have noticed it and reported in the intervening three months.


The DNC/MSM will be all over that!
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
29731 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:24 am to
They did not have a reasonable belief that he attempted to steal. Whether or not he was a "jogger" he was jogging at the time and was out in public and not in local proximity to where the incident was alleged to have occurred. Besides intent is forethought up until the time of the crime.

Besides Mc Michaels was not the property owner and did not witness any theft. At most he may have witnessed via video misdemeanor trespassing on a construction site.

Read the law and accompanying statutes. Not just a single statute.
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
Member since Mar 2019
21054 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:25 am to
Many of us have seen the video in small, edited and fuzzy compressed internet form. Several of the MSM links to that video were edited to take out the parts that didn't conform to their desired narrative.

However, there were some uncut full versions and even in the small fuzzy versions it was evident that Arbery ran around the front of the truck and attacked the guy with the shot gun trying to take the gun from him before he was shot.

The jury will see the full HD version of that video and it will be very clear.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
29731 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:28 am to
This is as close to Capital as you can get .

What gets me though is that everyone is forgetting about local law enforcement's role in attempting to cover this up.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:30 am to
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The jury will see the full HD version of that video and it will be very clear.


Yes, they will see McMichael point the shotgun at Arbery approached. They will see Arbery veer to the right to avoid McMichael and attempt to pass on the passenger side of the truck. They will see McMichael rush around the front of the truck to stop Arbery from passing before the two engage.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
23164 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:35 am to
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Well, the third defendant (Bryan) did tell police that Cletus Junior looked at Arbery’s corpse and called him a “frickin’ n!gger” immediately after the shooting.


And? I would bet pretty good money that Abery used racial slurs, probably quite frequently. Does that change the facts of what happened? Was he more deserving of being killed because of that?
Posted by ChuckO1975
Member since Feb 2021
1292 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:37 am to
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Well, the third defendant (Bryan) did tell police that Cletus Junior looked at Arbery’s corpse and called him a “frickin’ n!gger” immediately after the shooting.


And?


Lies detected: [NO]/yes
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
23164 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:46 am to
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the ONLY reason this is news at all is because it was white on black


That is also a fact.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:49 am to
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And? I would bet pretty good money that Abery used racial slurs, probably quite frequently. Does that change the facts of what happened? Was he more deserving of being killed because of that?



Don't you know these pro-Arbery people wouldn't care if he used racial slurs only if the rednecks used them?

Black people get a pass on such things.
Posted by TS1926
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
5903 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:53 am to
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HAHAHA....seriously nothing left to do response wise with how these woke sjw lefties look so stupid. I'm sure we'll have plenty of them in the thread still defending him.


As you can see, they are now saying, “well they shouldn’t have killed him and they deserve the full punishment of the law.”They’ve left out of their one track minds, that if this criminal would act aggressively towards the police then it’s no big jump to logically think he would have charged at the two armed civilians like a cornered rat.
Posted by ChuckO1975
Member since Feb 2021
1292 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 8:59 am to
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Don't you know these pro-Arbery people wouldn't care if he used racial slurs only if the rednecks used them?



AggieHank has repeatedly used the words "clan" and "redneck" to disparage these men, and believes that calling a burglar, convicted felon, and violent criminal a bad word supports the charges against them.

But is adamant that video of the guy casing a house, a history of violent crime, felony shoplifting, combativeness with police and gun charges are irrelevant.

The Arberys of this world are not the problem. We have always had Arberys. The problem is the AggieHanks and their anti-civilizational tendencies.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:00 am to
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there were some uncut full versions and even in the small fuzzy versions it was evident that Arbery ran around the front of the truck and attacked the guy with the shot gun trying to take the gun from him before he was shot.
This is completely false.

1. We KNOW that Junior was on the driver side and that Arbery was originally running to that side.

2. We KNOW that Arbery saw Junior and took a HARD right to go around the passenger side.

3. We KNOW that Junior STARTED. moving to the front of the truck when Arbery started his detour.

4. We KNOW that they got tangled up in the FRONT of the truck, slightly closer to the passenger side than to the driver side.

Between 3 and 4, we do not KNOW much, because the camera shifted off to the right at exactly the moment that the two men made contact with one another.

But we CAN ask whether it is more likely (1) that Arbery detoured AROUND Junior, only to agressively run across the front of the truck and attack him OR (2) that Junior tried to cut off Arbery
This post was edited on 4/4/21 at 12:13 pm
Posted by ChuckO1975
Member since Feb 2021
1292 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:03 am to
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Yes, they will see McMichael point the shotgun at Arbery approached


No, they will see him raise a shotgun at a guy who is inexplicably running towards them as they attempt to detain him fleeing a crime scene.

"Pointing it at him" is nowhere in that video. You can't prove that, but claim it anyway. Unsurprisingly, you are happy to claim the video of a known burglar casing a house isn't proof of intent. Mind melting levels of mental gymnastics are required to sustain liberal conceptualizations of "justice". Non society can continue to operate this way.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:06 am to
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The Arberys of this world are not the problem. We have always had Arberys. The problem is the AggieHanks and their anti-civilizational tendencies.



Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
36036 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:17 am to
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Lol. Residential construction? Requiring hard hats and safety boots? A very dangerous area? You obviously don’t know much about construction sites. And yes it is VERY common for people to walk through houses under construction


Exactly. The only time I see hard hats and safety vests on at a residential construction site is when the inspector is coming. Steel toed boots yes but even those aren't commonplace.

On a commercial construction site full PPE is always required.
This post was edited on 4/4/21 at 9:23 am
Posted by VABuckeye
Naples, FL
Member since Dec 2007
36036 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:21 am to
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But is adamant that video of the guy casing a house, a history of violent crime, felony shoplifting, combativeness with police and gun charges are irrelevant.


Well, they are because the defendants had NO PRIOR KNOWLEDGE of any of that.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 4/4/21 at 9:23 am to
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They’ve left out of their one track minds


You have left out of your one track minds that they had no knowledge of his past criminal behaviors rendering it irreverent in defense of their actions.
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