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re: List of things black people can’t do because they lack ID’s.
Posted on 3/27/21 at 11:26 pm to Aristo
Posted on 3/27/21 at 11:26 pm to Aristo
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What if I want to buy a gun and not have an ID?
If you want to fund a legal challenge with plaintiffs who have standing, claiming that blacks are disproportionately held back from purchasing guns without an ID as compared to whites... then more power to you.
Posted on 3/27/21 at 11:29 pm to UsingUpAllTheLetters
quote:Not sure how any of that is relevant to this topic (Voter ID), but it seems fair to suggest that LBJ’s Great Society is largely responsible. The data seems to indicate that the economic fortunes of Blacks had been steadily on the rise for many decades before LBJ bolluxed it up for them.quote:And how do you address that? What liberal policies get to the root of this issue? Better yet: what liberal policies are AT the root of this issue?
In every age bracket, Blacks are over-represented in poverty as a percentage of the population and Whites are under-represented.
This post was edited on 3/27/21 at 11:31 pm
Posted on 3/27/21 at 11:35 pm to Revelator
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List of things black people can’t do because they lack ID’s
#26 Apply for Medicaid that supplies birth control/vasectomies in most states
Posted on 3/27/21 at 11:37 pm to AggieHank86
I realized you were going by percentages and I went with raw numbers. My point was simply that there are far more white people in quantity who would be negatively affected by these “racially motivated” voter “suppression” laws than the entire black population of any class in this country...basically, we are bitching about a pretty insignificant block of potential minority voters being “racially” “suppressed” at the ballot box as compared to the entire segment of the population that would be negatively affected.
Also...how in the hell can a demographic be “underrepresented” in poverty if the stated goal is for everyone to be out of poverty? Jesus, it’s the same irrational argument that everyone should be free to be a unique individual regardless of their difference...but...we want everyone to be the same and have the same amount of all the same shite. Uniquely.
Also...how in the hell can a demographic be “underrepresented” in poverty if the stated goal is for everyone to be out of poverty? Jesus, it’s the same irrational argument that everyone should be free to be a unique individual regardless of their difference...but...we want everyone to be the same and have the same amount of all the same shite. Uniquely.
Posted on 3/27/21 at 11:37 pm to AggieHank86
quote:I’d say it’s relevant to your earlier point about marginalized blacks’ having less opportunity to procure ID. The causes of black poverty, regardless of their merit, are not absolution from the individual’s responsibility to provide some form of photo identification to cast a ballot. In a lot of places you have to have photo ID to pick your kids up from school, what are we even talking about here?
Not sure how any of that is relevant to this topic (Voter ID), but it seems fair to suggest that LBJ’s Great Society is largely responsible. The data seems to indicate that the economic fortunes of Blacks had been steadily on the rise for many decades before LBJ bolluxed it up for them.
Posted on 3/27/21 at 11:41 pm to AggieHank86
AggieHank do you actually believe that 25% of AAs don’t have an ID? Keep in mind that approximately 33% of AAs receive Snap benefits which means those that qualify have an ID.
Posted on 3/27/21 at 11:50 pm to Chingon Ag
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I’m highly embarrassed that you associate yourself with A&M. Of course, you fit in with the liberal filth that drive the leftists views the university pushes these days
Preach
Posted on 3/27/21 at 11:51 pm to AggieHank86
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In raw numbers, are there more poor Whites than poor Blacks? That number is not particularly relevant to this topic, but it is certainly possible.
It's very relevant to the narrative that caused this thread to be started, which is the claim by the Leftist that requiring voters to have IDs is racist voter suppression because poor black people can't obtain IDs.
Cross referencing population totals by race with poverty percentage by race yields approximately
18 million White
8.2 million Black
living below the poverty threshold
LINK
LINK
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In 2019, the poverty rate for the United States was 10.5%, the lowest since estimates were first released for 1959. Poverty rates declined between 2018 and 2019 for all major race and Hispanic origin groups. Two of these groups, Blacks and Hispanics, reached historic lows in their poverty rates in 2019. The poverty rate for Blacks was 18.8%; for Hispanics, it was 15.7%.
Thank you President Trump!
Posted on 3/27/21 at 11:52 pm to Revelator
Why do blacks accept the status of neglected child that needs hand holding and diaper changes?
Isn't this offensive to their community?
Isn't this offensive to their community?
Posted on 3/27/21 at 11:53 pm to TitleistProV1X
Posted on 3/28/21 at 5:20 am to DawgHolliday
quote:Well, I did not use the term as any sort of either argument OR judgment. Simply as shorthand for whether group’s percentage of those in poverty is higher or lower than the same group’s percentage of the population.
how in the hell can a demographic be “underrepresented” in poverty if the stated goal is for everyone to be out of poverty? Jesus, it’s the same irrational argument that everyone should be free to be a unique individual regardless of their difference...but...we want everyone to be the same and have the same amount of all the same shite. Uniquely.
For example, if a group comprises 1% of the population and 25% of those in poverty, that group is “over%represented” under this definition.
This post was edited on 3/28/21 at 6:00 am
Posted on 3/28/21 at 5:26 am to TitleistProV1X
quote:As an aside, the Horn is correct about the 33% figure. I am willing to assume that you simply made an error, rather than making a major (and insulting) affirmative misrepresentation.
AggieHank do you actually believe that 25% of AAs don’t have an ID?
With that caveat, that figure does seem counterintuitively-high.
I suspect that this is a comparison or apples and oranges, in that SNAP requires the individual to have had SOME form of identification to originally qualify and that such identification is something less than a current, valid photo ID issued by. governmental entity. But I’ve not researched the question in any depth. VERY quick search reveals the following:
quote:In other words, once you GET the card, you do not need an ID to USE the card, except in one small state.
Q. Can states require a photo ID on the electronic benefit transfer (EBT) cards used by individuals who receive food stamps?
A: Under federal law, states can require that EBT cards for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) include photos of the beneficiaries or that customers show photo ID to use the cards. Massachusetts is the only state that currently has such a law. LINK
In Texas, it would appear that one can initially-qualify with a host of different means of identification, many of which do not include a photo. Examples seem to include birth certificate and pay stub.
This post was edited on 3/28/21 at 5:57 am
Posted on 3/28/21 at 6:02 am to AggieHank86
This is a direct quote from you:
Where are the examples of people who lack the opportunity to get an ID? Please explain exactly why they lack that opportunity and why most of them are black.
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the proposition is NOT that NO Blacks can obtain a government ID, but rather that a larger percentage of Blacks than Whites lack the opportunity to do so
Where are the examples of people who lack the opportunity to get an ID? Please explain exactly why they lack that opportunity and why most of them are black.
Posted on 3/28/21 at 6:07 am to texashorn
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disparity exists proportionally between the races is without dispute,
Which races? And based on which factors?
Back up your claim with evidence.
Posted on 3/28/21 at 6:16 am to Revelator
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. Purchasing OTC medicine that contains pseudoephedrine
Posted on 3/28/21 at 6:21 am to AggieHank86
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Good Lord, you are clearly bright enough to understand that the Dem proposition is NOT that NO Blacks can obtain a government ID, but rather that a larger percentage of Blacks than Whites lack the opportunity to do so.
I disagree with your premise. I assert that black people do not lack less of an opportunity to attain a government issued ID than white people.
Georgia requires the following to acquire an ID card:
- an identity document; a top example is a birth certificate. Perhaps your family did not maintain records, this is understandable. You can still get a certified copy from the state upon request. I had to do so once. A black person has the same opportunity to do so as I.
- a social security card; again, if you don’t know your social security number or don’t have a social security card, you can request one from your local social security office. A black person can walk into the office and do so just as I can.
- a document showing your residence and address; a top example is a bill or a bank account statement. You can open a checking account today with $0.
While a greater percentage of black people may lack ID, I argue they possess the same opportunity to attain one as white people.
Posted on 3/28/21 at 6:28 am to Nguyener
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Where are the examples of people who lack the opportunity to get an ID? Please explain exactly why they lack that opportunity and why most of them are black.
It doesn't matter anyway. That's a red herring reference. We don't hold elections based on percentages of different races. It's based on pure numbers. So even if it's true (and I'm confident it's not) it's a smaller number of blacks affected, which is all that matters in an election.
Posted on 3/28/21 at 6:32 am to AggieHank86
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In every age bracket, Blacks are over-represented in poverty as a percentage of the population and Whites are under-represented.
Some black poverty is a result of bad life choices like having kids out of wedlock and no fathers in the home. Some of it is because many black families don’t stress education. Some are born into families who have partaken in generational welfare. How do you fix these root causes of poverty ?
Posted on 3/28/21 at 6:33 am to Revelator
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How do you fix these root causes of poverty ?
When my wife started feeding the squirrels in the back yard, more showed up. Now they're fat, lazy, and expect there to be food there every day.
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