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Help with humidity/condensation issues

Posted on 3/23/21 at 9:05 am
Posted by colbycovington
Ruston
Member since Jan 2020
2092 posts
Posted on 3/23/21 at 9:05 am
Last year I built a shop and subsequently built a living quarters inside of the shop. The shop is well insulated.

The living quarters is completely closed off and has windows, a bathroom and mini split.
The only vent in the living quarters is in the bathroom which we keep running 24/7.

Within a week of completion, the room was soaking wet. It fills up a dehumidifier 2-3 times per day. It happens whether the mini split is on or off but happens more when it is warm outside.

Anybody have any ideas as to what is causing the issue?
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 3/23/21 at 9:15 am to
Why would you keep the bathroom vent running 24/7? Exterior air is often more humid than interior, so you aren’t necessarily drawing in lower humidity air. Shut off that vent and run the AC.
Posted by CrawDude
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2019
5690 posts
Posted on 3/23/21 at 10:02 am to
quote:

Why would you keep the bathroom vent running 24/7? Exterior air is often more humid than interior, so you aren’t necessarily drawing in lower humidity air. Shut off that vent and run the AC.



This,

You need to start to start with shutting off the bathroom vent except when the bathroom is in use. You are pulling in humid outside air to replace that being exhausted by the bathroom vent. If that doesn’t solve the problem, you need to see if the mini-split is functioning properly - is it properly charged with refrigerant, is it properly sized (not oversized) for the space you are cooling. A properly sized and functioning HVAC when operating for long hours should be able to keep relative humidity near 50%. And is there a source of outside air infiltration into the enclosed and insultated area you haven’t accounted for? That can be determined from a blower door test.
This post was edited on 3/23/21 at 1:02 pm
Posted by colbycovington
Ruston
Member since Jan 2020
2092 posts
Posted on 3/23/21 at 10:08 am to
Thanks for the advice I will try that
Posted by halleburton
Member since Dec 2009
1597 posts
Posted on 3/23/21 at 10:20 am to
Is the living area insulated from the shop itself? Or is only the structure envelope insulated?
This post was edited on 3/23/21 at 10:21 am
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
3155 posts
Posted on 3/23/21 at 7:55 pm to
Does the living quarters have walls that are "exterior"? What kind of insulation? Did you lay a vapor barrier before pouring your slab?
Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
46242 posts
Posted on 3/23/21 at 8:11 pm to
quote:

You are pulling in humid outside air to replace that being exhausted by the bathroom vent.

correct
your building is under negative pressure due to the exhaust fan.
as the fan sucks air out of the closed area, outside air is sucked in anywhere it can due to the pressure inside being lower than outside.

turn off the exhaust fan and leave it off
Posted by colbycovington
Ruston
Member since Jan 2020
2092 posts
Posted on 3/23/21 at 8:49 pm to
Both are individually insulated. Plus dry wall in the living quarters
Posted by colbycovington
Ruston
Member since Jan 2020
2092 posts
Posted on 3/23/21 at 8:50 pm to
Yes the living quarters have exterior walls. And no we didn’t lay a vapor barrier because it was added on after the fact. We thought that could be the issue. The building condensates whether the mini split or vent is on or off.
Posted by dragginass
Member since Jan 2013
3155 posts
Posted on 3/23/21 at 9:26 pm to
It sounds like you have multiple issues. The vapor barrier issue is something you need to address, though there is no perfect fix. You could use a product like redguard under all flooring, but you still have the bottom plates wicking moisture. On that note, did you use a sill sealer under the plates?

I don't know anything about your site conditions, but depending on your slab and site you may never get it dry as-is.
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
8781 posts
Posted on 3/23/21 at 10:09 pm to
I don’t know how to fix your issue but I have a shop that will stay humid without a dehumidifier. So I have the dehumidifier next to a wall with a drain line in the back out the wall. No bucket to empty and it waters a small herb garden.
Posted by Big O Tiger
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2004
82 posts
Posted on 3/26/21 at 1:47 pm to
Yes to fan off and check AC operation. In addition dis you put a vapor barrier under the slab (assuming slab). If not you will get moisture through the slab. There are products to put on top of the slab that will serve as vapor barriers.
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