Top 30 QBs of All-Time

Manning at 2 and Graham at 3 ahead of Montana at 5? And Elway at 12 behind Marino? GTFO.

Definitely good group of 30. Not sure I can find anything wrong with that. And I'd agree that while Mahomes appears to be a shoe-in for that list, being just outside is how I'd personally have him at this time until another season or two at his current level. Being able to play at a high level for 6+ seasons has to be a factor.

I'd probably rank Staubach higher, being he was a trend-setter as well at the position. I like the inclusion of Len Dawson in that Top 15ish. I feel like alot of people wouldn't even have him in their Top 25, and what he did in that era as far as efficiency can't be ignored.

I guess if I were to nit-pick (keep in mind, not using a data point spreadsheet or whatnot like you did, just knowing stats, performance in leading their teams and keeping in mind eras in which they played):

Marino over Favre
Rodgers over Brees
Staubach at least #11 behind Young, maybe in Top 10, though I'd have to decide who to kick out of Top 10
Bradshaw a bit higher
I'd kick Griese, Jurgensen, Namath or Big Ben out of the Top 30 in favor of Kenny Anderson.

But again, overall, I like it. Nice work.

Graham surprised me too. He played only 10 seasons and made it to the championship game every year. He won the championship in 7 of those 10 seasons (tied with Tom Brady for championships). Although he played from 1946-55, his career passer rating is amazing (as you might suspect modern players dominate this stat with their high % shorter passing game). He tops Elway by 7 pts in career passer rating! His other accolades (All-Pros and MVPs) also leave Elway in the dust.

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Graham surprised me too. He played only 10 seasons and made it to the championship game every year. He won the championship in 7 of those 10 seasons (tied with Tom Brady for championships).

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When Graham played the NFL only had 12 teams, 6 per division. Way easier to make the title game. Compare careers and Montana has better numbers than Graham across the board. More career yards, TDs, higher completion % and lower interception ratio. If you compare their per game stats, since Graham only played 10 years, Montana is also better than Graham in every category: completions, completion %, yards, TDs, interceptions. Graham over Montana is laughable. His 7 championships in a 12 team league cannot be given that much weight to push him over Montana and others with way better stats. Otherwise Terry Bradshaw should be much higher bc of his championships.

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7. Drew Brees
8. Dan Marino


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All good points spiderman. Hard to compare QBs that played 40 years apart. Graham was among the first modern passers. They threw a lot less and they threw the ball downfield much more than today's passers. His avg completion was over 16 yds, compared to Montana's 11.9 yds. It wasn't the championships that put Graham over Montana, it was his huge collection of MVPs and All-Pros.

I'd caution against using passing yards as a measure of greatness. If it is, that means the likes of Vinny Testaverde, Drew Bledsoe, Carson Palmer, Joe Flacco, Dave Krieg and Kerry Collins are all-time greats. They were good, but not in the Top 50 of greats.

nice research tankyank13

Montana’s 1, Brady’s 2 and the field follows, that’s it and I’m sticking with it those two cut from a different cloth, I picked Montana over Brady bc more athletic than Brady in terms of ability to run. Wild-card: I pick Staubach 3, you just knew he was gonna get you at some point late in the game no matter how much the Cowboys trailed, the ultimate crowd-killer. Unitas at 4.

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28. Jim Kelly

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Must be heavily weighted toward super bowls. that 0-4 dragging him down