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re: what was capitalisms role in the suppression of this superior product?
Posted on 2/5/21 at 2:06 pm to Hidden Tiger
Posted on 2/5/21 at 2:06 pm to Hidden Tiger
I enjoy weed from time to time, mainly on trips to 'rado. That being said, I heard a good bit from a comedian the other day where he wished marijuana would be legalized everywhere so potheads would shut the frick up about weed. 
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Posted on 2/5/21 at 2:07 pm to Hidden Tiger
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I guess you're like incapable of seeing what the last 90 years of it being illegal may have done to the price.
what a dense reply. wow.
The last 90 years doesn't mean shite...it is legal to sell, buy, and own today....so make it cheaper than cotton and it will take off I guarantee it.
I Ralph Lauren can make polo shirts for 10 dollars using hemp instead of 20 dollars using coton and still sell them for $75 then that shite will get bought.
Nothing you say matters...the above is fact.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 2:10 pm to Hidden Tiger
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Not only are all the claims in the OP true, it's a mere fraction of the full list.
I just bet it is. It'll fix your high blood pressure, diabetes and grow hair on your head, make your skillet truly non stick, make your grass greener than it is on the other side of the fence, fix global warming and make pit bulls safe to be around. Sounds like claims straight out of an old we medicine show.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 2:10 pm to LSU316
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The last 90 years doesn't mean shite...
it means a lot of shits when applied to the question in the op
and it means a lot of shits when you are talking about how it can interact in the market today after being suppressed so long, and it's not truly completely legal now in terms of anyone being able to go plant as much of it as they want.
you are dense and committed to not understanding the situation here
Posted on 2/5/21 at 2:10 pm to Hidden Tiger
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care to answer the question?
Care to provide a link for your assertions?
Posted on 2/5/21 at 2:11 pm to SSpaniel
God damn all that....I'm guessing it will replace the dick pill next.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 2:14 pm to LSU316
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Also the shite hasn't been illegal for 90 years...it's been illegal/banned since 1970 which by my counts is 51 years....again 51 != 90
hemp was effectively banned in 1937 by making it literally impossible financially for anyone to grow and sell. The language was cleaned up in 1970 to remove wiggle room.
you are again, dense
Posted on 2/5/21 at 2:14 pm to Hidden Tiger
I fricking hate the gov't and the prohibition on anything, but what I really hate are these people that tout fricking hemp/CBD/THC as some miracle cure for ANYTHING.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 2:15 pm to Zach
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Care to provide a link for your assertions?
all over the google's
for something like this, that is so well accepted by most already, I'm not going to do that work for you.
you old timers can handle a google spin
Posted on 2/5/21 at 2:18 pm to Aubie Spr96
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I fricking hate the gov't and the prohibition on anything, but what I really hate are these people that tout fricking hemp/CBD/THC as some miracle cure for ANYTHING.
sounds like you're pretty unaware of all the products it replaces and scientifically backed as being stronger or longer lasting on top of cleaner and more efficient
this isn't about the pathetically diluted cbd industry and your limited understanding of what the plant produces
Posted on 2/5/21 at 2:19 pm to Hidden Tiger
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all over the google's
Someone is ashamed of their sources. That's OK. I choose not to believe anything you're saying. Hemp is fine for ropes. That's it. The other things in your list were very common reads before google. I first read them 40 years ago. They were articles written by marijuana users. If you don't believe me, just google it.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 2:20 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:Yep. As usual the OP author is mistaken.
It's mostly legal now.
The Farming Bill of 2018 passed by congress made it legal for farmers to cultivate, harvest and sell hemp with the stipulation that states must pass enabling legislation to comply with the national law.
The federal law limits the maximum amount of THC for the hemp to be sold at .3%.
Grown naturally without close monitoring the level of THC in hemp can easily exceed 2%. That kind of hemp is referred to as "hot hemp."
As of 2020 only 3 states, North Dakota, Idaho and Mississippi had not yet passed such legislation.
In all of the other 47 states there are farmers, researchers or pilot growing programs legally cultivating hemp.
I guess the "machine" is not strong in those states...
All of the facts I've stated above came from this article...
Posted on 2/5/21 at 2:21 pm to Hidden Tiger
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why would a plant that is superior
Setting aside the arguability of this statement, the answer (not the one you are looking for) is CORRUPTION and efforts at population control.
Americans have always scared somewhat easily (despite our notions about "toughness" of prior generations), and government officials (not "Capitalists") used a whole range of scare tactics to gin up support for a broad range of prohibition measures from the 20s (during the alcohol prohibition era) through the late 30s (peak of The New Deal(tm)).
Trying to pin this on "capitalism" is very akin to trying to pin prohibition of prostitution on "capitalism" - nonsense. It is government elites who push such policies, enact them, enforce them, sustain them and, ultimately, benefit from them.
"Capitalism" would gladly sell a valid product in a competitive marketplace.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 2:23 pm to LSU316
quote:Or make you care that your dick don't work right.
God damn all that....I'm guessing it will replace the dick pill next.
Wait... I guess that's what it's cousin does, isn't it?
Posted on 2/5/21 at 2:23 pm to Zach
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Zach
sounds good, stay old and uniformed
Posted on 2/5/21 at 2:25 pm to SSpaniel
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Or make you care that your dick don't work right.
Wait... I guess that's what it's cousin does, isn't it?
you're thinking of what they call 'whiskey-dick'
the cousin of hemp is considered more of a helper in that area than a harmer
Posted on 2/5/21 at 2:26 pm to Hidden Tiger
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Hidden Tiger
I'm just curious if you're trying to make some kind of point or just trying to insult everyone who responds to you?
Posted on 2/5/21 at 2:28 pm to SSpaniel
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Wait... I guess that's what it's cousin does, isn't it?
Let's not play the OP's game. It's not a "cousin" - it's the same GD plant.
Cannabis sativa. Some just have a little more THC than others, some have a little less.
Now, there are a lot of beneficial products that come from the plant. It's been made a boogeyman since the 1930s for a whole range of reasons (corruption, racism, etc.), but it isn't the panacea that folks like the OP suggests either. However, as the medicinal/recreational use of cannabis/THC spreads, there will be few barriers for industrial development of the more "legitimate" uses of the plant, thus obviating the entire reason for such a thread.
Other than to further the OP's agenda to bash "capitalism" as somehow the villain here, when it is actually government policies are responsible for restriction of this wonderful, marvelous herb.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 2:34 pm to Ace Midnight
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Setting aside the arguability of this statement, the answer (not the one you are looking for) is CORRUPTION and efforts at population control.
Americans have always scared somewhat easily (despite our notions about "toughness" of prior generations), and government officials (not "Capitalists") used a whole range of scare tactics to gin up support for a broad range of prohibition measures from the 20s (during the alcohol prohibition era) through the late 30s (peak of The New Deal(tm)).
Trying to pin this on "capitalism" is very akin to trying to pin prohibition of prostitution on "capitalism" - nonsense. It is government elites who push such policies, enact them, enforce them, sustain them and, ultimately, benefit from them.
"Capitalism" would gladly sell a valid product in a competitive marketplace.
do you even know a main reason alcohol was prohibited for a short time? oil
it was a way to centralize energy production because alcohol was a cheap, decentralized way to produce fuel. the money behind prohibition trace to the oil-garchs.
your analogy was laughably retarded. there is no comparison to a product with hundreds of great uses and zero negative effects to a women selling herself on a street corner and societies decision to outlaw that in the public domain.
you are coping by trying really hard to find an answer that doesn't incriminate your favorite ism.
those in control of industries through collusion and government ownership didn't want anything to disrupt the trajectory of their power and control. Period.
Posted on 2/5/21 at 2:37 pm to Hidden Tiger
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do you even know a main reason alcohol was prohibited for a short time? oil
You're barking mad. The suffragettes had their dander up - the suffragettes WERE the prohibitionists. Period. Full stop.
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there is no comparison to a product with hundreds of great uses and zero negative effects to a women selling herself on a street corner and societies decision to outlaw that in the public domain.
Well, capitalists tend to prefer a market with products to buy or sell. Central planning folks (i.e. not capitalists) tend to want to restrict and vector folks into single/no choice options.
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by trying really hard to find an answer that doesn't incriminate your favorite ism.
What was the Soviet Union policy on the wonderful, marvelous herb? Or Red China's (at least until very recently)?
I'll hang up and listen.
(ETA: Your Yoga Girl/Retaeh/Heather persona was more friendly.)
This post was edited on 2/5/21 at 2:40 pm
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