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Spin Rate
Posted on 2/1/21 at 8:23 am
Posted on 2/1/21 at 8:23 am
Went and got fitted from Budda last week. All in all i thought he was awesome. Filled with knowledge. I tried to take my personal preference of what I “wanted” out of the equation and go with what was best for me and my swing.
I’m honestly a bit confused on the outcome. You obviously do your fitting off your 6 iron. My avg swing speed with my 6 iron is 105 mph. I hit this club on average between 185-190. But it can balloon to 200 or even fall short at 175. Budda numbers showed my spin rate was through the roof. Well over 7k with a 6 iron. He only had about 4-5 steel shafts for me to choose from due to my swing speed which was fine.
The part i don’t understand is the irons we dialed it down to. It was between the Mizuno mp20, srixon, and Taylor made p790. The spin rate was ideal with the P790 snd my distance increased to a 205 carry and spin rate of about 5900. But the P790s are standard “juiced irons”. The standard loft for the P790 6 iron is 27.5. That’s just a .5 degrees less than my mizuno mp52 5 iron. Is that the answer to a high spin rate is less loft and juiced clubs? It doesn’t make much since to me honestly. I’m not saying that’s cheating but isn’t that just manipulating a test? Obviously my spin rate would be lower if any of the other clubs were “juiced”.
Does anyone have any legit knowledge about this? Or does Budda “stock” irons used for testing all come with standard lofts?
I’m honestly a bit confused on the outcome. You obviously do your fitting off your 6 iron. My avg swing speed with my 6 iron is 105 mph. I hit this club on average between 185-190. But it can balloon to 200 or even fall short at 175. Budda numbers showed my spin rate was through the roof. Well over 7k with a 6 iron. He only had about 4-5 steel shafts for me to choose from due to my swing speed which was fine.
The part i don’t understand is the irons we dialed it down to. It was between the Mizuno mp20, srixon, and Taylor made p790. The spin rate was ideal with the P790 snd my distance increased to a 205 carry and spin rate of about 5900. But the P790s are standard “juiced irons”. The standard loft for the P790 6 iron is 27.5. That’s just a .5 degrees less than my mizuno mp52 5 iron. Is that the answer to a high spin rate is less loft and juiced clubs? It doesn’t make much since to me honestly. I’m not saying that’s cheating but isn’t that just manipulating a test? Obviously my spin rate would be lower if any of the other clubs were “juiced”.
Does anyone have any legit knowledge about this? Or does Budda “stock” irons used for testing all come with standard lofts?
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Posted on 2/1/21 at 8:34 am to RawDog7984
There is no “standard” across manufacturers and models
Posted on 2/1/21 at 9:37 am to RawDog7984
You’re swing speed seems off to your total distance too. Way off.
Posted on 2/1/21 at 12:19 pm to RawDog7984
P790 are a players distance iron..definitely not something you seem to need. Did you try the P770? I do not understand some people buying irons based on distance and then ending up with huge gaps when they get down to the wedges..your traditional scoring clubs that are used most often
This post was edited on 2/1/21 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 2/1/21 at 12:33 pm to RawDog7984
Maybe swing slower and hit it more flush?
Posted on 2/1/21 at 5:55 pm to RawDog7984
The easiest way to change spin rate is to change delivered loft.
Spin is basically(removing gear effect) club speed x spin loft (difference in dynamic loft and angle of attack) x the coefficient of friction. You’re not changing friction, and you don’t want to slow down club speed.
Without seeing anything, you’re probably the most qualified person to be in a “juiced” iron. Ideally, you would learn to lean the shaft a bit more, but Buddha’s job is to get you in the best irons possible.
Spin is basically(removing gear effect) club speed x spin loft (difference in dynamic loft and angle of attack) x the coefficient of friction. You’re not changing friction, and you don’t want to slow down club speed.
Without seeing anything, you’re probably the most qualified person to be in a “juiced” iron. Ideally, you would learn to lean the shaft a bit more, but Buddha’s job is to get you in the best irons possible.
Posted on 2/1/21 at 6:19 pm to RawDog7984
Here’s the one negative about Buddha’s setup: indoor trackman. The ball data is good because it’s using radar and getting numbers from the ball itself for the first 10 feet of flight, but the club data isn’t going to be as accurate because it’s mostly all based on an estimate/calculation. So I wouldn’t get too stuck on the 105 swing speed. Your concern with spin is warranted though. Have you tried changing the ball you use? That would be the easiest fix imo.
Posted on 2/2/21 at 5:22 am to RawDog7984
Spin Rate is largely a function of how you deliver the club to the ball. Typically you’ll see someone with a shallower swing spin it less than someone with a largely negative attack angle. Without seeing your numbers I’d say you are definitely in that last category.
With that being said, spin can often times be your friend. It helps minimize misses as well as keep the ball in the air. If you’re carrying your 6 iron 205 and spinning it at around 6000rpm I’d say that’s pretty ideal! My worry with the P790 and your swing speed is gapping and control. From my experience during fittings and lessons, there can be some pretty significant yardage gaps in those irons. I’ve also seen players struggle to control distances.
With that being said, spin can often times be your friend. It helps minimize misses as well as keep the ball in the air. If you’re carrying your 6 iron 205 and spinning it at around 6000rpm I’d say that’s pretty ideal! My worry with the P790 and your swing speed is gapping and control. From my experience during fittings and lessons, there can be some pretty significant yardage gaps in those irons. I’ve also seen players struggle to control distances.
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