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The SCOTUS liberals are not happy with Trump's federal executions

Posted on 1/17/21 at 9:09 am
Posted by WPBTiger
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Member since Nov 2011
31269 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 9:09 am
Death penalty would be an acutal deterrant if they stopped all the unnecessary delays.

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The supreme court justices Sonia Sotomayor and Stephen Breyer have excoriated the Trump administration for carrying out its 13th and final federal execution days before the president leaves office.

Dustin John Higgs died by lethal injection at the federal correctional institute in Terre Haute, Indiana, on Friday night, after his 11th-hour clemency appeal was rejected.


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“This was not justice,” Sotomayor, a Barack Obama appointee, wrote in an order issued late on Friday.

“To put that in historical context, the federal government will have executed more than three times as many people in the last six months than it had in the previous six decades,” she wrote.


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Breyer went further than Sotomayor by questioning the constitutionality of the death penalty, the first member of the current panel to do so. The third liberal justice, Elena Kagan, also dissented in the Higgs case but did not give an explanation.


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“He received a fair trial and was convicted and sentenced to death by a unanimous jury for a despicable crime,” the US district judge Peter Messitte wrote in December.


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Many believe officials rushed to complete a series of executions before Joe Biden is inaugurated on 20 January. Biden has stated his desire to have the death penalty abolished at federal and state level.


Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34859 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 9:13 am to
Well, that's too damn bad.
Posted by RealDawg
Dawgville
Member since Nov 2012
9503 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 9:15 am to
Fairly certain is was the courts that sentenced them to death.
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
22175 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 9:16 am to
We actually need more of this, but I’m not really thinking of people who are currently incarcerated
Posted by Nono
Member since Nov 2017
4820 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 9:17 am to
Well if I sold out to foreign governments and committed treason, I would be opposed to the death penalty as well.
Posted by Jimbeaux
Member since Sep 2003
20152 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 9:17 am to
Does the article actually explain how Trump is the one who is making these executions happen?

Doesn’t the judicial branch adjudicate the case, hand down a sentence, and hear the appeals?

So, if I’m right, Trump is simply choosing not to grant clemency, choosing not to override the court?

The Trump Derangement Syndrome continues to rage at a fevered pitch.


This post was edited on 1/17/21 at 9:21 am
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112635 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 9:39 am to
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Death penalty would be an acutal deterrant if they stopped all the unnecessary delays.


This is an issue I studied in depth about 30 years ago.
The term was 'certainty of punishment.' The research said any type of punishment must have a level of severity but also a big element of certainty (high percentage it will happen and it happens quickly).

It was intriguing material. For example, the reason some people will play golf when a storm is coming is because there is an extremely low risk of getting struck by lightening that outweighs the severity of getting killed by it.
OTOH, the risk a smoker takes of dying from cancer is very high, but the time lapse may be 40 years so there is no deterrent.

So, for cap pun to deter you have to kill a high percentage of murderers and you have to kill them within a year or two.

Another interesting factor was 'societal retribution.' IE, executing Adolph Eichmann was not designed to deter people from gassing Jews. He was killed because it just made people feel good. Every time I read about a murderer dying it makes me feel good and I don't even know the victim.
Posted by Little Trump
Florida
Member since Nov 2017
5817 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 9:45 am to
Soto meter doesn’t even qualify for SC

Screw both of their opinions
Posted by Magictiger
Member since Jan 2020
59 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 9:51 am to
So killing unborn innocent babies is okay but don't you dare kill dangerous criminals? Democrat logic
Posted by Pepperoni
Mar-a-Lago
Member since Aug 2013
3486 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 9:56 am to
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“To put that in historical context, the federal government will have executed more than three times as many people in the last six months than it had in the previous six decades,” Sotomayor wrote.


And under Pelosi, the House has initiated more impeachment processes than anyone else in US history.
Posted by viceman
Huntsville, AL
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:09 am to
Posted by SipGirl
Mississippi
Member since Jan 2021
217 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:13 am to
Pretty sure the death penalty was not newly released during the Trump administration!!! SCOTUS is the pits!
Posted by KCT
Psalm 23:5
Member since Feb 2010
38911 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:23 am to
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Sonia Sotomayor


A 10-pound bag of elephant dung is more useful than this worthless bitch. At least elephant dung can be used as fertilizer (the commute to Africa to get some is a bitch, though, and Amazon doesn't carry it).
Posted by mauser
Orange Beach
Member since Nov 2008
21763 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:30 am to
He gunned down 3 women, Tamika Black, Tanji Jackson, and Mishann Chinn.

Say her name.
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11535 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:42 am to
I am not against killing for certain crimes but I do not think the state should be able to execute people. They frick up too much stuff to have that power and the potential for abuse by the government is too high. I am all for victims getting retribution, and we should do that through jury nullification.
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
10448 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:58 am to
Same old shitt , vote to kill the innocent infants and save the harden criminals that do the disgusting . Same playbook across the spectrum for Democrats . Persecute the innocent believers of god , praise the mostly innocent murderers . Mentally challenged confused trannies need hoisting as leaders of community and stable families are dangerous . If god was ever ready to throw up his hands , right about now should be it .
Posted by lsu777
Lake Charles
Member since Jan 2004
31507 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 11:41 am to
Wait....so yall hate the federal government, yet think its a good idea to give them the power to execute people?

So yall complain constantly about corruption of the federal government, the fbi, the Cia and scream deep swamp....yet want to give then the legal authority to execute Americans?

Wtf??

So is the government corrupt or not? Do yall believe after everything we have seen over the last 2 decades that the government is above planting evidence or righing a jury?

Remember this is the same government that constantly breaks the constitution, especially when it comes to search and seizure, yet gets away with it because they say it's classified.

frick giving any form of government the ability to legally kill Americans. In theory sounds great, but in the real world it doesn't work.
Posted by TigerVespamon
Member since Dec 2010
6139 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 3:25 pm to
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Death penalty would be an acutal deterrant if they stopped all the unnecessary delays.
Lawyers gotta eat.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36749 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 3:28 pm to
I'm not pro death penalty BUT if they don't like it maybe they should have fricking done something about it.
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