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re: What is your definition of socialism? And why or why not is it an effective system?
Posted on 1/16/21 at 9:19 pm to Bass Tiger
Posted on 1/16/21 at 9:19 pm to Bass Tiger
Why is that important? Is a person’s knowledge always valued by their net worth?
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Posted on 1/16/21 at 9:21 pm to PacMan01
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Why is that important? Is a person’s knowledge always valued by their net worth?
Why do socialists always deal only in extremes. Life is full of complexity and context and nuance. Socialists seem to only see the world in black and white.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 9:26 pm to PacMan01
Here is another fact you don’t understand.
The top tax bracket in those Scandinavian countries starts much lower. The top tax bracket of 45-55% taxes starts at the equivalent of 50,000 salary in US dollars.
And to remind you, in the US, the bottom 50% of earners contribute to 3% of tax revenues.
So you see, the reason you don’t have socialized medicine and education like Norway is because poor people aren’t paying as much in taxes as they are in Norway.
I would actually welcome a tax bracket like Norway. I would get crushed but I think it would be a good lesson for a lot of people in this country that aren’t paying a lot of taxes but want a bunch of free stuff. To see them start paying 30-40% taxes, maybe they would start voting different.
So people in the 50k to 100k bracket paying 8% in the US now would be paying 45% in Denmark.
You still think you aren’t getting much for healthcare?
It would be hilarious to watch the melts when they got their first paycheck. I bet most would never vote democrat again.
The top tax bracket in those Scandinavian countries starts much lower. The top tax bracket of 45-55% taxes starts at the equivalent of 50,000 salary in US dollars.
And to remind you, in the US, the bottom 50% of earners contribute to 3% of tax revenues.
So you see, the reason you don’t have socialized medicine and education like Norway is because poor people aren’t paying as much in taxes as they are in Norway.
I would actually welcome a tax bracket like Norway. I would get crushed but I think it would be a good lesson for a lot of people in this country that aren’t paying a lot of taxes but want a bunch of free stuff. To see them start paying 30-40% taxes, maybe they would start voting different.
So people in the 50k to 100k bracket paying 8% in the US now would be paying 45% in Denmark.
You still think you aren’t getting much for healthcare?
It would be hilarious to watch the melts when they got their first paycheck. I bet most would never vote democrat again.
This post was edited on 1/16/21 at 9:38 pm
Posted on 1/16/21 at 9:35 pm to PacMan01
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Why is that important? Is a person’s knowledge always valued by their net worth?
This is something poor people with 18 posts say
Posted on 1/16/21 at 9:37 pm to PacMan01
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Why is that important? Is a person’s knowledge always valued by their net worth?
You have that option in a capitalist country. Go be a doctor and then do all your work for free. Why do you want to drag down everyone else with you?
Posted on 1/16/21 at 9:56 pm to PacMan01
Reuters
Imagine paying 60% income tax and still needing to buy private health insurance because of your shitty government health system
People in this country that think we have it so bad right now are going to get a big wake up call when they start paying a lot more and don’t get anymore in return.
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Cuts to healthcare services, which include everything from free doctor appointments to cancer treatment, have led to the closure of a quarter of state hospitals in the past decade alone.
A recent survey showed that more than half of Danes don’t trust the public health service to offer the right treatment. As a consequence the proportion of the 5.7 millionDanish population taking out private health insurance has jumped to 33% from 4% in 2003, according to trade organization Insurance & Pension Denmark.
Other cuts over the past 10 years have led to the closure of a fifth of state schools, while spending per person above 65 years on services such as care homes, cleaning and rehabilitation after illness has dropped by a quarter.
Since the early 2000s, governments have also pushed through unpopular measures to encourage people to work longer.
They include gradually increasing the retirement age to 73 - the highest in the world - in decades to come from 65 currently, phasing out early retirement benefits and cutting unemployment benefits to two years from four.
Imagine paying 60% income tax and still needing to buy private health insurance because of your shitty government health system
People in this country that think we have it so bad right now are going to get a big wake up call when they start paying a lot more and don’t get anymore in return.
This post was edited on 1/16/21 at 9:58 pm
Posted on 1/17/21 at 10:38 am to PacMan01
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Why is that important? Is a person’s knowledge always valued by their net worth?
I asked you what your net worth is so I can determine how much skin you have in this socialism game you want us all to participate in. To make it easy to understand let's say your net worth was $10 million and the D.C. Socialist committee decided the max net worth any one person can attain is $2.5 million, any amount over $2.5 million is redistributed to the "people". With that being said, how many wealthy Dim Marxist Elites who are pushing this socialism BS would give up their substantial wealth to the socialist utopian cause? Ill help ya out here....probably zero!
Does this help you better understand the socialist crap the Dim Marxists are pushing isn't going to impact their wealth because they will find ways to hide and shelter their wealth/assets, however, the middle and upper middle class will be the ones expected to fund their socialist utopia.
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