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Posted on 1/16/21 at 7:05 pm to PacMan01
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I mostly agree with 2/3. But one of the tenets of socialism is the “workers own the means of production” not the government, no?
That's a lie socialists tell.
Show me a socialist country where people get dividends from Microsoft, Inc. because they "own the means of production".
Socialist pawns don't own shite.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 7:06 pm to PacMan01
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But one of the tenets of socialism is the “workers own the means of production” not the government, no?
Posted on 1/16/21 at 7:07 pm to PacMan01
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I mostly agree with 2/3. But one of the tenets of socialism is the “workers own the means of production” not the government, no?
No. That’s communism.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 7:29 pm to PacMan01
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the “workers own the means of production” not the government, no?
Which then implies that there is some governance structure in which the workers have a democratic voice. This is more disastrous and is why the Communists always have to end up creating a hierarchal system anyway.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 7:54 pm to PacMan01
quote:That is like the Big Mac in the commercial, then you buy the actual one.
But one of the tenets of socialism is the “workers own the means of production” not the government, no?
Posted on 1/16/21 at 7:57 pm to PacMan01
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I mostly agree with 2/3. But one of the tenets of socialism is the “workers own the means of production” not the government, no?
Can you sell or trade or transfer your share of the means of production? If not, you don't own it.
Posted on 1/16/21 at 9:15 pm to PacMan01
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tenets
Explain this in your own words please
Posted on 1/17/21 at 12:07 pm to PacMan01
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I mostly agree with 2/3. But one of the tenets of socialism is the “workers own the means of production” not the government, no?
Ok....but who controls the distribution of that production?
And once they have control....why do they need to distribute goods and wealth fairly?
Posted on 1/17/21 at 2:27 pm to PacMan01
quote:In a state socialist model, the state owns the means of production. . .and ideally answers to the people.
But one of the tenets of socialism is the “workers own the means of production” not the government, no?
In an anarcho-socialist model, the people own the means of production. . .this is what people mean when they say "communism"
The failure of this socio-economic system, is it tells you you CAN work. . .but does nothing to encourage and stimulate work. . .or even tell you WHY you should.
Also fails in certain basic necessities, like logistics and sanitation. Who gets the widgets from Detroit to Bangledesh? A guy that can choose to do anything is just gonna be a deckhand on a ship?
Somebody is gonna volunteer to clean out the sewage tanks and pick up the trash?
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