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Posted on 3/16/21 at 10:07 pm to
Posted by WigSplitta22
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Posted on 3/16/21 at 10:07 pm to
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You have to let that stuff degrade before planting stuff.


Yes but you still destroy lots of beneficial bacteria and fungi in your soil. One of my main goals when gardening in a bed is to build those layers of rich fertile soil so over time you can grow just about anything you want in there with minimal effort
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 3/16/21 at 10:10 pm to
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Tractor supply sells pelletilized lime you can spread like fertilizer.
However that's the slow release form and it's takes a while. The hydrated version he posted will go to work much quicker if put into solution.

So you're both correct. I'd use both the pelletized when able and some type of the hydrated now. My feed and feed had a premixed version made just for this. However you'll need to reapply several times through the season as it'll also wash out. They were telling me ph is real critical to nutrient uptake and one that low makes it hard to utilized things like nitrogen.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 3/17/21 at 7:36 am to
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What kind of irrigation system are you guys using ?


I bought a Mister Landscaper drip irrigation kit from Lowe’s last year. It works pretty well. Can’t speak to the longevity of it, but it has had no problems so far.
Posted by ChenierauTigre
Dreamland
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/17/21 at 8:26 am to
Good luck to all of you who have gardens with this storm system. Hail is not our friend, nor is ridiculous winds and flooding.

I only have green beans, cucumber and bok choy planted so far. Tomatoes, peppers, squashes are snuggled up inside.
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 3/17/21 at 8:32 am to
It’s coming through here right now. Good luck all.
Posted by Ajbemis13
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 3/17/21 at 8:49 am to
Hey guys, new gardener here. My husband built some raised beds and we filled them in with all new soil. Have tomatoes, peppers and some other things planted and I’m mulching with pine straw. The mulch has been keeping me from having to water much. In fact the beds are so moist I’m noticing fungi growth in my tomato bed. Things like little mushrooms and some patches of yellow and white mildew on the surface of the soil. I thought it was pollen at first glance but then took a closer look and noticed the mushrooms as well. All the plants look really healthy and are growing so fast! Is this sort of fungi okay to have in the garden? I scraped it off this morning before searching on the internet. Didn’t find the information I was looking for so I thought y’all would be able to help me. Thanks.
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 3/17/21 at 9:04 am to
Sounds like you have good microbial activity in the soil which is a very good sign. It means you have very good soil. Nothing to worry about. But try not to keep it too wet.

Here are a couple of links to help explain:
Mushrooms: Why They're a Sign of Healthy Soil
OSU Extension: Mushrooms can mean healthy soil
This post was edited on 3/17/21 at 9:21 am
Posted by Ajbemis13
Member since Feb 2021
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Posted on 3/17/21 at 9:57 am to
That’s great news! Thanks so much!
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/17/21 at 5:38 pm to
does anyone have pictures of their irrigation? I want to get away from soaker hoses.
Posted by Tigris
Mexican Home
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 3/17/21 at 6:03 pm to
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I bought a Mister Landscaper drip irrigation kit from Lowe’s last year. It works pretty well. Can’t speak to the longevity of it, but it has had no problems so far.


I've had a Mister Landscaper system (mostly) for 3.5 years. The longevity is pretty good. In the spring I have to make a few repairs but nothing too bad. Occasionally one of the connections will blow out and needs to be plugged and re-inserted. Overall it's saved me a ton of time and lets me travel, so I'm happy.
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 3/17/21 at 6:54 pm to
so what's better, the one's where you tap a hole or the one's where you cut and put a T?
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 3/18/21 at 6:50 am to
I have this one. Mister Landscaper Drip Irrigation Vegetable Garden Kit

ETA: The strawberries are really starting to come in now that it’s warming up.
This post was edited on 3/18/21 at 6:58 am
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 3/18/21 at 7:13 am to
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The strawberries are really starting to come in now that it’s warming up.


Mine took a beating in that freeze. Killed just about all of it but I have been giving it a good dose of fertilizer every other week then trimmed off all the dead stuff. It is rebounding nicely.

I was lucky enough to get 2 strawberries for the boys before that freeze thankfully. You would have thought that week they had to wait between seeing them green and ripening lasted a year
Posted by PillageUrVillage
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Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 3/18/21 at 7:40 am to
We got a handful of decent sized strawberries before the freeze, too. But they are really taking off now. Full of flowers and small berries. The blackberries are taking off, too. Sending up a bunch of canes and branches.

Spring time be like

Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 3/18/21 at 8:12 am to
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The blackberries are taking off


Yeah mine blew up in the last week or 2. I thought it was a goner after Laura because it was shredded to bits and half the canes were broken off. I ran over it with the mower and figured I would replace it come spring. Just before it got cold, it sent up a couple of shoots so I just sat and watched the little nub in the ground sit there all winter.

Now with the massive root system in place, it is already 1/4 of the size it was before the hurricanes.

Better hurry up and get your hive going!
This post was edited on 3/18/21 at 8:14 am
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14845 posts
Posted on 3/18/21 at 8:29 am to
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Better hurry up and get your hive going!



They were originally supposed to be ready by tomorrow. Freeze pushed it back a couple of weeks.

That’s ok, though. Things are still sprouting and growing. By the time I get them there should be plenty of forage around here for the girls.
This post was edited on 3/18/21 at 8:34 am
Posted by jyoung1
Lafayette
Member since May 2010
2130 posts
Posted on 3/18/21 at 9:50 am to
I agree, soaker hoses suck for raised beds.

I can get some pictures when I get home, but here's what you need:

- 2-way splitter at faucet to split into irrigation hose & normal hose. Amazon (there's cheaper ones, but they don't last as long)

- Timer Amazon
You should also get a water hammer arrestor to protect timer: Amazon

- Regulator/filter downstream of timer Amazon
I'm not sure if this is really needed, but all of the fittings and emitters are usually not rated for much higher than 25 psi, and it also has an adapter for 1/2" tubing

- Then you can go buy a kit like this or this and that might be all you need.



Since I have a mix of raised beds, containers, and in ground plants, I started out with one of those kits, but if I had to do it again I would've bought what I needed more individually:

- Go to Home Depot and buy 1/2" irrigation tubing, it's really cheap like $8 for 500 ft. roll.

- Also at HD get a roll of 1/4" tubing, i prefer This material over the poly tubing as those are sometimes difficult to install fittings/emitters.


The only parts that are dependent on your garden setup are the emitters:

- These OR These

- These are my favorite if you don't mind water spraying everywhere, they also come with the installation tool that you can use for everything else.

- You can also get something like These OR These. if you want more control over the GPH per plant. Which you really only need if you have so many plants that the emitters I linked earlier flow more than 1/2" tubing can produce (1/2" tubing can handle about 200 GPH), which if you're using more than 15 or so of these emitters on a spike, the 1/2" tubing will struggle to supply enough flow.


Fittings:

- 1/2" Fittings

- 1/4" fittings, I really only needed 90's - LINK, but you can also get This.

- If you want to isolate certain sections get some Valves
- If you end up with random different size 1/2" tubing like I did, These are like the only valves that work

Home Depot also has an irrigation section where you can see a lot of the options, the only tricky part for me was what kind of emitters work best and making sure they all have enough flow.

If you show your setup it'll be easier to say what you should get.

Apologies for rambling.

This post was edited on 3/18/21 at 10:38 am
Posted by jyoung1
Lafayette
Member since May 2010
2130 posts
Posted on 3/18/21 at 10:45 am to
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The hydrated version he posted will go to work much quicker if put into solution.


Thanks that's what I wanted to know!

If i hadn't planted everything into containers already I would've mixed some lime into soil mix, but too late for that. I mixed some "fast acting" lime into top layer of soil but I don't think that will do much for the root zone.

The baking soda solution I poured into containers didn't work at all, I'm actually pretty sure the PH level went lower somehow, the probe tester is measuring like 3.5-5 PH, in some places pegging out at 3.5, very weird. I'm going to try some of the hydrated lime solution this weekend.

My plants are really struggling at the moment, I'm hoping the rain we got will help somewhat
Posted by PillageUrVillage
Mordor
Member since Mar 2011
14845 posts
Posted on 3/18/21 at 11:13 am to
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Since I have a mix of raised beds, containers, and in ground plants, I started out with one of those kits, but if I had to do it again I would've bought what I needed more individually


This is where I am now. The kit was great for my big main garden. As I add things (boxes, containers, and flower beds), I'm adding things on an individual basis.

Quality post.
This post was edited on 3/18/21 at 11:15 am
Posted by Tigris
Mexican Home
Member since Jul 2005
12451 posts
Posted on 3/18/21 at 12:20 pm to
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so what's better, the one's where you tap a hole or the one's where you cut and put a T?


I've never used one where you "put a T", what I use you punch a hole and stick in a fitting with a barb that holds it. It's really easy to set up.
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