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Can we take a look at the Articles of Impeachment? This is absurd
Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:25 pm
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ARTICLE 1: INCITEMENT OF INSURRECTION
The Constitution provides that the House of Representatives "shall have the sole Power of Impeachment" and that the President "shall be removed from Office on Impeachment, for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors." Further, section 3 of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution prohibits any person who has "engaged in insurrection or rebellion against" the United States from "hold[ing] and office ... under the United States.' In his conduct while President of the United States — and in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, provide, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed — Donald John Trump engaged in high Crimes and Misdemeanors by inciting violence against the Government of the United States, in that:
On January 6, 2021, pursuant to the 12th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, the Vice President of the United States, the House of Representatives, and the Senate met at the United States Capitol for a Joint Session of Congress to count the votes of the Electoral College. In the months preceding the Joint Session, President Trump repeatedly issued false statements asserting that the Presidential election results were the product of widespread fraud and should not be accepted by the American people or certified by State or Federal officials. Shortly before the Joint Session commenced, President Trump, addressed a crowd at the Ellipse in Washington, D.C. There, he reiterated false claims that "we won this election, and we won it by a landslide." He also willfully made statements that, in context, encouraged — and foreseeably resulted in — lawless action at the Capitol, such as: "if you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore." Thus incited by President Trump, members of the crowd he had addressed, in an attempt to, among other objectives, interfere with the Joint Session's solemn constitutional duty to certify the results of the 2020 Presidential election, unlawfully breached and vandalized the Capitol, injured and killed law enforcement personnel, menaced Members of Congress, the Vice President, and Congressional personnel, and engaged in other violent, deadly, destructive and seditious acts.
President Trump's conduct on January 6, 2021, followed his prior efforts to subvert and obstruct the certification of the results of the 2020 Presidential election. Those prior efforts included a phone call on January 2, 2021, during which President Trump urged the secretary of state of Georgia, Brad Raffensperger, to "find" enough votes to overturn the Georgia Presidential election results and threatened Secretary Raffensperger if he failed to do so.
In all this, President Trump gravely endangered the security of the United States and its institutions of Government. He threatened the integrity of the democratic system, interfered with the peaceful transition of power, and imperiled a coequal branch of Government. He thereby betrayed his trust as President, to the manifest injury of the people of the United States.
Wherefore, Donald John Trump, by such conduct, has demonstrated that he will remain a threat to national security, democracy, and the Constitution if allowed to remain in office, and has acted in a manner grossly incompatible with self-governance and the rule of law. Donald John Trump thus warrants impeachment and trial, removal from office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust, or profit under the United States.
I understand it's not a court of law.
But he is accused of:
"engaged in insurrection or rebellion against" the United States from "hold[ing] and office"
"Donald John Trump engaged in high Crimes and Misdemeanors by inciting violence against the Government of the United States"
By doing this:
President Trump repeatedly issued false statements asserting that the Presidential election results were the product of widespread fraud and should not be accepted by the American people or certified by State or Federal officials
and
-he reiterated false claims that "we won this election, and we won it by a landslide."
-He also willfully made statements that, in context, encouraged — and foreseeably resulted in — lawless action at the Capitol
-such as: "if you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore." Thus incited by President Trump, members of the crowd he had addressed, in an attempt to...
So this is based on "in context" and unproven assumptions about "inciting" the motives of the crowd.
This is laughable
This post was edited on 1/13/21 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:27 pm to ChunkyLover54
I read this as Democrats having a Madlib version and they just have to insert nouns and verbs where needed
Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:28 pm to PaperTiger
Normally the Dems just put “penis” in every blank.
And on the paper too.
And on the paper too.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:28 pm to ChunkyLover54
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This is laughable
I wish it was funny.
It's fricking pathetic.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:28 pm to ChunkyLover54
quote:
-he reiterated false claims that "we won this election, and we won it by a landslide."
If the claim is false, you simply say "well, that's not true" and go on with your life. You don't impeach a President. Unless your arse is chapped because he's saying you didn't win. "How dare he say we didn't win. Why, he's gonna pay for that."
Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:29 pm to PaperTiger
Drowning motions....
Another contributed a suggestion to the Impeachment as a means of preventing the second term??? Thursday's DNI release??? Last gasp efforts???
POPCORN!!!
Another contributed a suggestion to the Impeachment as a means of preventing the second term??? Thursday's DNI release??? Last gasp efforts???
POPCORN!!!
Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:31 pm to ChunkyLover54
All this trouble just to cover up their election fraud?
Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:32 pm to ChunkyLover54
Just wait until normal citizens are their next target.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:33 pm to ChunkyLover54
So Maxin Waters:
“Let’s make sure we show up wherever we have to show up. And if you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them. And you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere. We’ve got to get the children connected to their parents,” Waters said at the Wilshire Federal Building, according to video of the event. LINK
Waters appeared on MSNBC later in the day to double down on her remarks, saying she has “no sympathy” for members of the Trump administration.
“The people are going to turn on them. They’re going to protest. They’re going to absolutely harass them until they decide that they’re going to tell the President, ‘No, I can’t hang with you.’”
“Let’s make sure we show up wherever we have to show up. And if you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them. And you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere. We’ve got to get the children connected to their parents,” Waters said at the Wilshire Federal Building, according to video of the event. LINK
Waters appeared on MSNBC later in the day to double down on her remarks, saying she has “no sympathy” for members of the Trump administration.
“The people are going to turn on them. They’re going to protest. They’re going to absolutely harass them until they decide that they’re going to tell the President, ‘No, I can’t hang with you.’”
Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:34 pm to ChunkyLover54
quote:but there ain't nobody laughing.
this is laughable
Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:36 pm to ChunkyLover54
quote:
-He also willfully made statements that, in context, encouraged — and foreseeably resulted in — lawless action at the Capitol
If it was so foreseeable, why weren't they better prepared to stop it?
Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:37 pm to indianswim
Because the head of the Capitol PD requested reinforcements and was denied by someone for “optics” reasons.
IOW, Pelosi et all let it happen because they wanted the Capitol under-guarded.
IOW, Pelosi et all let it happen because they wanted the Capitol under-guarded.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:40 pm to ChunkyLover54
Doesn’t Trump get to now submit evidence of voter fraud (if it exists) during his “trial” since they specifically put that as a reason for impeachment?
Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:43 pm to Bwmdx
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Doesn’t Trump get to now submit evidence of voter fraud (if it exists) during his “trial” since they specifically put that as a reason for impeachment?
There won't be a trial.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:45 pm to squid_hunt
quote:It's much more than that. They are trying to put Trump out of the picture forever, and that's a fact. But more than that, they want to destroy every middle-class and working-class white mfer in this once great country, and ultimately, the entire world.
All this trouble just to cover up their election fraud?
Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:45 pm to ChunkyLover54
Lol history won’t be kind to Trump
Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:46 pm to Bwmdx
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(if it exists)
Spoiler alert ... it doesn't
Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:48 pm to ChunkyLover54
This is the second time that democRats are impeaching Trump for something that they did.
Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:51 pm to 13SaintTiger
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Lol history won’t be kind to Trump
It will be if we can ever get back a media that's worth a shite, instead of one that's hand in hand with the demoncrats. If we can somehow return honest to the media... and remove the liberal stink from the education system... then it'll be kind to Trump. Absent those things, you are probably right.
This post was edited on 1/13/21 at 12:52 pm
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