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Posted on 1/9/21 at 11:18 am to Knartfocker
I don’t want to sound alarmist, but’s that terrifying.
It would be a small thing to use child services and the courts, to takeaway your children from you.
It would be a small thing to use child services and the courts, to takeaway your children from you.
Posted on 1/9/21 at 11:23 am to Roger Klarvin
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I find this unlikely, given about 85% of homeschooling parents cite religious reasons as one of their reasons for doing so and nearly all homeschool curriculum is designed by religious or politically conservative entities.
The right to free speech is gone, do you really think they are going to care about your right to practice a religion?
Posted on 1/9/21 at 11:37 am to Roger Klarvin
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I find this unlikely, given about 85% of homeschooling parents cite religious reasons as one of their reasons for doing so and nearly all homeschool curriculum is designed by religious or politically conservative entities.
I worked in a public library as a librarian for a few years before we started homeschooling- there are more non religious homeschoolers than you think. Plenty don’t want their children exposed to God or gods (like government) so they get lumped into the ‘religious reasons for homeschooling.’
There are also plenty of resources out there that are not religious - people don’t actually have to buy a curriculum at all. It’s easier if you do but not necessary. At the library
I used to have to give a presentation once a year to the homeschooling communities about what resources are/were available at the library. The library bought these resources as supplements for the school kids knowing how crappy the education can be - it’s a great thing for everyone.
Posted on 1/9/21 at 12:06 pm to STEVED00
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Homeschooling is exploding over the country and for good reason.
I'm a relatively competent user of the internet but can't find much data to support this. The COVID impact will make current numbers irrelevant for analysis - and it makes sense to me that quite a few people may decide to go full homeschooling after doing some form of it during the pandemic. Seems it'd take a year or two to have them level back out to see where we are.
Some slightly recent data:
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The number of children being homeschooled grew 28.9% between 1999 and 2003, 37.6% between 2003 and 2007, and 17.4% between 2007 and 2011-2012. Between 2011-2012 and 2015-2016, the number of children being homeschooled deceased by 4.5%. The highest rate of homeschool growth occurred between 2003 and 2007.
Also see that you don't necessarily have to report that you're homeschooling, so any numbers will have a margin of error.
I read the reason.com article about this, and there's a bit of data but it skews into an opinion piece.
I think homeschooling is fine as long as there's a way to measure children are being prepared to a reasonable educational level. I also think quality public education is critical. Many people in single head-of-household or families that need to work two jobs need public school options.
And challenges to homeschooling would most likely be at the state level and not federal, no? There's no record I can find of Cardona saying anything hostile towards home schooling.
Posted on 1/9/21 at 12:11 pm to Lincoln1
After I posted all that, I found better data from just before COVID times:
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Also points out that a demographic growing quickly is minorities.
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There are about 2.5 million homeschool students in grades K-12 in the United States (or 3% to 4% of school-age children). That is, there were an estimated 2.5 million in spring 2019 [note 1]. It appears that the homeschool population is continuing to grow (at an estimated 2% to 8% per annum over the past few years).
Also points out that a demographic growing quickly is minorities.
Posted on 1/9/21 at 12:17 pm to Roger Klarvin
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I find this unlikely, given about 85% of homeschooling parents cite religious reasons as one of their reasons for doing so and nearly all homeschool curriculum is designed by religious or politically conservative entities.
LINK
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According to the Homeschool Legal Defense Association, a Purcellville, Virginia-based Christian group that has frequently brought lawsuits against state and federal schooling authorities on behalf of homeschoolers, about 25 percent of homeschooling families are secular, while roughly two-thirds are Christian. That group of atheist, agnostic, and non-religious homeschoolers is bound to grow as more people identify as non-religious. It’s hard to say exactly how many American kids identify as secular and how many of them are homeschooled, since surveys typically focus on adults over the age of 18.
So...
a) please provide data
b) 85% was significantly higher than the ~66% from 4-5 years ago when the numbers above were pulled, and the population has continued to move to being less religious. Stands to reason it's at or lower than 2/3 and trending downward.
Also, it took a tiny bit of googling to find a ton of secular, accredited home schooling options. Curious to see data on the second part of your assertion.
This post was edited on 1/9/21 at 12:18 pm
Posted on 1/9/21 at 12:21 pm to STEVED00
It would be very simple to eliminate. Require colleges to make regulations for any application that require them to go to an “approved” school with an “approved” curriculum.
Posted on 1/9/21 at 12:32 pm to EA6B
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do you really think they are going to care about your right to practice a religion?
Oh they’re going after churches and synagogues too. I guarantee they will attack churches nationwide for promoting sexism, racism, homophobia, transphobia, and bigotry. I’ll be shocked if by the end of the year we don’t get a call from a major publication or network to either edit or ban the Bible. The ship on the First Amendment has sailed.
Posted on 1/9/21 at 1:07 pm to Roger Klarvin
I have homeschooled for over 15 years and have absolutely NO CLUE where you get your 'statistics.'
There are well organized groups of Muslim homeschoolers, Jewish homeschoolers, Mormon homeschoolers, unschoolers, etc, etc, etc.
As for curriculum being overwhelmingly Christian, another falsehood. Each subgroup develops a lot of its own curriculum. Seculars very often choose to use science books, math curricula, foreign language curricula that's out there for public use, used in public schools, etc.
There are well organized groups of Muslim homeschoolers, Jewish homeschoolers, Mormon homeschoolers, unschoolers, etc, etc, etc.
As for curriculum being overwhelmingly Christian, another falsehood. Each subgroup develops a lot of its own curriculum. Seculars very often choose to use science books, math curricula, foreign language curricula that's out there for public use, used in public schools, etc.
Posted on 1/9/21 at 1:11 pm to Pintail
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It would be very simple to eliminate. Require colleges to make regulations for any application that require them to go to an “approved” school with an “approved” curriculum.
In Louisiana
where I homeschool - I have to send in paperwork every year and ‘proof’ my kids have learned (either standardized tests, report cards or syllabi) - I follow the rules and my homeschool is ‘approved’ by the state The curriculum I use is approved by one of those US dept of Ed recognized entities
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