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Question about limit orders

Posted on 1/6/21 at 9:20 am
Posted by bayoubengal2007
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2015
67 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 9:20 am
I purchased an OTC market ETf this morning, which my brokerage account does not accept market orders for. Assuming the price was to rise today, I set my limit order higher than the current market price. When it was filled, it was filled at the limit price, even though the current price of the ETF had not reached that amount. I know the limit is the max amount that I am willing to pay, but it is normal for the brokerage account to execute it at the maximum price, and not "or better" prices. Thanks is advance guys.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41884 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 9:26 am to
quote:

, I set my limit order higher than the current market price. 


yea don't do this
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 9:35 am to
Buy high sell low
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133482 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 9:39 am to
quote:

but it is normal for the brokerage account to execute it at the maximum price, and not "or better" prices.
No. At least not with my online broker, Schwab.
Posted by bayoubengal2007
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2015
67 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 9:41 am to
It has surpassed the price now, I just didn't expect that to happen, because I never used limit orders before. Thanks rocket
Posted by bayoubengal2007
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2015
67 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 9:43 am to
Good to know, Russian, I'll keep an eye out in the future. I have a brokerage with ally invest and a 401k with Fidelity. I didn't have the same problem with Fidelity
Posted by Jag_Warrior
Virginia
Member since May 2015
4292 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 11:37 am to
quote:

which my brokerage account does not accept market orders for.


That’s a new one on me. I’ve never seen that before.

But why would one set a limit order ABOVE the market price?
Posted by CajunTiger92
Member since Dec 2007
2860 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

purchased an OTC market ETf this morning, which my brokerage account does not accept market orders for.


Was this in premarket?
Posted by bayoubengal2007
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2015
67 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 12:50 pm to
Yes it was in premarket. I set it slightly above because I wanted the order to go through and no be cancelled or partially filled
Posted by Finchboyz
Choclate city
Member since May 2018
551 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 8:15 pm to
You should have the option to purchase at market price.
Posted by CajunTiger92
Member since Dec 2007
2860 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 8:37 pm to
Market orders are only valid for regular market hours. You can’t use a market order for extended trading hours. The spreads are typically larger in extended trading, particularly if you are trading a low volume stock or etf. Market makers do not participate in extended hours and there is less liquidity in the market. Sounds like you wanted the stock, wanted the trade to execute and you bought it at a price you were willing to pay. So the market worked.

Posted by tigerfan4444
Member since Apr 2008
702 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 1:53 am to
What broker did you use? What is the ticker symbol of the ETF? What was your limit price?

You shouldn't use market orders. I've seen people get hosed on pricing when using market orders.
Posted by bayoubengal2007
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2015
67 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 10:57 am to
The buy was for GBTC on Ally invest.
Posted by AllbyMyRelf
Virginia
Member since Nov 2014
3991 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 4:16 pm to
Seems like a violation of Reg BI, but you’d have to do some research on that to verify
Posted by ReadyPlayer1
Clown World
Member since Oct 2020
1084 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 4:23 pm to
How much was the difference from the market price to your limit ?
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135343 posts
Posted on 1/8/21 at 3:45 am to
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It has surpassed the price now, I just didn't expect that to happen, because I never used limit orders before.
FWIW, doubtful this had anything to do with your limit order per se. Essentially you placed a market order.

As you probably know, market transactions are a bid-ask basis. Bids fall below current stock price. Asks are above. In volatile markets or instances of lower trade activity, bid-ask spreads can be considerable.

The risk of market orders is your order getting matched with higher than market asks. That's likely what happened here, and though it may not have been as obvious, you've gotten tagged with similar costs in other of your market order transactions.

That's fine if your goal is solely to commit to a position. But to avoid over market price risk, place purchase limits at the current price or lower. e.g., I can't recall the last time I placed a market order, if ever. Occasionally though, as you alluded, you'll get stuck with a partial position.
This post was edited on 1/8/21 at 4:54 am
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