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Jason David Owning his Suckage

Posted on 8/19/08 at 12:46 am
Posted by Guido Merkens
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Posted on 8/19/08 at 12:46 am
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With the boos still ringing in his ears two days later, beleaguered Saints cornerback Jason David agreed with his harshest critics Monday.

"Looking at it from a fans point of view, I'd probably boo myself, too," David said while sitting in front of his locker during the lunch hour. "The fans have a high expectation, and so do I and the coaching staff.

"This is the NFL. It's part of the game. There's no one to blame but myself. I'm the only who can really stop the boos. It has nothing to do with the coaches. It has nothing to do with the players. It's pretty much just me."

David proved to be the object of the fans' ire on a night when an entire defense put up little resistance in a 31-27 exhibition loss to the Houston Texans at the Superdome.

The boos rained down early on David after a 14-yard completion from quarterback Matt Schaub to wide receiver Andre Davis six minutes into the game. More boos came one play later when Texans wide receiver Kevin Walter converted a short pass in front of David into a 17-yard catch-and-run.

The boos reached a crescendo moments later when Walter beat David for a 26-yard touchdown reception.

It appeared David got beat in man-to-man coverage. But players and coaches came to David's defense Monday, noting that the Saints were playing zone coverage -- and safety Kevin Kaesviharn failed to drop deep enough into the secondary.

"Jason played bad technique; Kevin played bad technique," Saints defensive coordinator Gary Gibbs said. "If we execute properly, it could have been an interception, but (even if not picked off) it's not a completion and touchdown."

David's poor performance against the Texans didn't help his chances to win a starting job opposite veteran cornerback Mike McKenzie, let alone earn him a spot on the 53-man roster.

Suffice it to say David likely dropped on the depth chart going into the Saints' third exhibition game against the Cincinnati Bengals at 6:30 p.m. Saturday at Paul Brown Stadium.

"Jason has had a good camp," Gibbs said. "He did good at Arizona (in the Saints' first exhibition). Unfortunately for him, and everybody, he reverted back and lost his technique against Houston, and when you do that you're going to be exposed.

"He certainly is someone who doesn't need to be exposed."

Whether David can make up ground in the coming weeks is uncertain. Second-round draft pick Tracy Porter might have earned more playing time against the Bengals now that cornerback Usama Young is expected to miss at least two weeks with an injured hamstring.

Plus, the competition in the secondary got a little tougher Monday when the Saints signed veteran safety Lance Schulters.

"Jason just needs to keep playing hard and trust his technique," Gibbs said. "When you do that, good things happen for you.

"He made a lot of plays for us last year. What we all remember are the bad plays. That's a position where you have to have a short memory. But it's also a position where if you don't play technique, if you don't play with the right leverage, if you don't utilize your help, then it's a lonely spot as well."

No lonelier than Saturday night when David felt the wrath of frustrated Saints fans.

"That was an experience (Saturday) night," David said.

One, he'd obviously like to forget.

"C'mon people," Saints quarterback Drew Brees said. "We haven't even started playing games that count yet. It's extremely unfair. We're talking about the first quarter of our first preseason game at home. The bottom line is we all need to improve -- offense, defense and special teams. We shouldn't be hearing boos, especially at this time. We should be hearing encouragement.

"(Fans) should trust our team and our coaches to do the job that is expected of us. If a guy is not making the plays he needs to be making, you can be sure that he'll probably be replaced or pushed in a way where he'll start making plays. If he doesn't, he won't be playing anymore. But, if he's on the field, he's the best guy for the job. Or he wouldn't be on the field."

Veteran defensive back Jason Craft said booing comes with "the territory of playing out on the island," a phrase typically associated with playing the cornerback position.

"As a corner, you have to block it out," Craft said. "That's the corner's life. All I can say to him is to stay positive, keep his head up and go out and make plays until he starts hearing the cheers again.

"You've just got to go out there and make plays and try to get people off your back."

For David, that process began Saturday night when he went home and watched a DVD of his Super Bowl XLI season with the Indianapolis Colts.

"I just have to remind myself what type of player I am, where I'm making plays and having fun," David said. "I can't let the game get to me too much where it's not fun anymore.

"I'm at a point now where I have to do whatever it takes. Obviously, the time at practice I'm giving or the meeting room time I'm having is not enough, so it's up to me to be a professional and do what I'm supposed to do."

As far as opposing quarterbacks throwing his way and wearing a bull's-eye on the back of his No.¤42 jersey, David said bring it on.

"I'm up to the challenge," he said. "I've had bad games before, and I've had bad seasons before in high school, college and at Indianapolis. The one thing I pride myself on, or what I did well during those times, is lean back and figure out what I'm doing wrong and just bounce back.

"Hey, if I was a fan, and if I loved the Saints as much as they do and I was as passionate as they are, I'd boo me, too. That's part of the game. That's part of the business. That's fair. I'm the only one who can stop that. I'm not one to point the finger at anybody. It starts with me and ends with me."

Brian Allee-Walsh can be reached at ballee-walsh@timespicayune.com or 504.826.3405.


This post was edited on 8/19/08 at 12:50 am
Posted by deuce985
Member since Feb 2008
27660 posts
Posted on 8/19/08 at 1:49 am to
"(Fans) should trust our team and our coaches to do the job that is expected of us. If a guy is not making the plays he needs to be making, you can be sure that he'll probably be replaced or pushed in a way where he'll start making plays. If he doesn't, he won't be playing anymore. But, if he's on the field, he's the best guy for the job. Or he wouldn't be on the field."

That last sentence is extremely disturbing...
This post was edited on 8/19/08 at 1:50 am
Posted by FearTheFish
Member since Dec 2007
4313 posts
Posted on 8/19/08 at 1:50 am to
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We shouldn't be hearing boos, especially at this time. We should be hearing encouragement.


Contrary to what I posted earlier making fun of David, I agree with Brees on this. What's the point in playing an entire season if you start out preseason hearing boos?

Geaux Saints. GIVE ME A BLACK 'N' GOL' SUPA BOWL THAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR ALL MY LIFE!

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 8/19/08 at 2:06 am to
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What's the point in playing an entire season if you start out preseason hearing boos?


1. Because you want to be a winner.

2. Because you're getting paid millions to do so.

3. Because fans booing shouldn't determine whether or not you want to play.

I could go on.
Posted by TheEdge
Member since Apr 2007
9703 posts
Posted on 8/19/08 at 2:08 am to
TI honestly don't know what to think of this.

On the one had I respect for owing up to sucking, but at the same time the fact that he is thinking about the Boos makes me worried about where his and the Defense's mind is at
Posted by FearTheFish
Member since Dec 2007
4313 posts
Posted on 8/19/08 at 2:49 am to
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2. Because you're getting paid millions to do so.


If you went into work every day and your clients/coworkers showed you no respect, would you keep it up honestly? Even for a paycheck?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112624 posts
Posted on 8/19/08 at 4:56 am to
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If you went into work every day and your clients/coworkers showed you no respect, would you keep it up honestly? Even for a paycheck?


To answer the question as it is, I'd keep my money and work as hard as I possibly could to prove everyone wrong, so I can win on both ends.

But I dont think the analogy is very logical though.

If I have a "normal" job, I work with/for my clients/co-workers.

Athletes, contrary to popular opinion, do NOT play for the fans first and foremost.

I'd say they play for there teammates first and foremost and coaches second(other than doing it for themselves of course).

So, I may see your point if you were saying coaches and players were showing him no respect, but it's not the same analogy when it's the fans.

Posted by TheEye
Rightcha.
Member since Dec 2006
4954 posts
Posted on 8/19/08 at 6:06 am to
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Contrary to what I posted earlier making fun of David, I agree with Brees on this. What's the point in playing an entire season if you start out preseason hearing boos?

He's not totaly right. I won't boo Brees if he screws up b/c I know what he can do. Same goes for Colston, Deuce, Patten ect.... But David has not anything but get toasted. I have no reason to believe he can do any better. And if it's already starting in pre-season, it gonna last all season and we have a right to be pissed about that.

I bet Brees is thinking, "man I wish I played against that dude twice a year."
Posted by Chrome
Chromeville
Member since Nov 2007
12647 posts
Posted on 8/19/08 at 6:41 am to
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On the one had I respect for owing up to sucking, but at the same time the fact that he is thinking about the Boos makes me worried about where his and the Defense's mind is at


I guess it's kinda hard to ignore when you hear it all night.
Posted by DollaChoppa
I Simp for ACC
Member since May 2008
84774 posts
Posted on 8/19/08 at 6:57 am to
As much as I like Brees play on the field, some of the stuff he says is just stupid.
Remember last year with that bandwagon fan bullshite?
You were 0-4 dude and then u win 4 games in a row and start talkin smack and then you dont even finish above .500

Let your game speak for you.
Posted by blueslover
deeper than deep south
Member since Sep 2007
22792 posts
Posted on 8/19/08 at 7:33 am to
I love the man upping...
quote:

"Hey, if I was a fan, and if I loved the Saints as much as they do and I was as passionate as they are, I'd boo me, too. That's part of the game. That's part of the business. That's fair. I'm the only one who can stop that. I'm not one to point the finger at anybody. It starts with me and ends with me."


I ranted in another thread tho, being a good guy does not make talent or skills. I think someone with a Cover 2 scheme should trade for him cuz they could get him for nothing. Wrong player for this scheme.

I understand what Breesy is saying but this...
quote:

"(Fans) should trust our team and our coaches to do the job that is expected of us. If a guy is not making the plays he needs to be making, you can be sure that he'll probably be replaced or pushed in a way where he'll start making plays. If he doesn't, he won't be playing anymore. But, if he's on the field, he's the best guy for the job. Or he wouldn't be on the field."

When the guy is demoted on the depth chart immediately after such booing then the booing was obviously rightly targeted. Passionate fans don't like putting up with crappy play. If it's crap try someone else... at least some different crap. Remember Brooks sucking and fans chanting "Jake! Jake! Jake!"? That was right on cuz he left and showed the talent that would have been an improvement. When coaches stick with players just cuz they are their guys or they traded for or signed them then bad things happen. Payton earned another good coaching notch from me by demoting him. Like Colston ousted Stallworth, like PT ousted Pittman, somebody has to be better than JD.
Posted by SaucierTigers
Saucier,Ms
Member since Jun 2008
349 posts
Posted on 8/19/08 at 7:59 am to
i agree with DREW its preseason.unlike most fans.fans really think the saints should shut teams out ,not score a single point!which is dumb it doesn't happen that much.bottom line its about winning for me! you either like the team or you dont! some just bitch an thats your right.but the bitcher's couldn't touch there arse with there own two hands truth be known,
Posted by Rickety Cricket
Premium Member
Member since Aug 2007
46883 posts
Posted on 8/19/08 at 8:02 am to
I honestly feel sorry for the guy. Obviously he's not cutting it on the field, but I'm sure the guy's doing everything he can to be the best player possible. It just sucks that he is worthless in the defensive scheme run by the team. The front office severely fricked up when they brought him in to play in this scheme.
Posted by whodatfan
Member since Mar 2008
21959 posts
Posted on 8/19/08 at 8:07 am to
Man, I love drew, but he's wrong on this one. Just look at the numbers from last year and that should explain the boos. We've seen no improvement and he flat out got abused. NO EXCUSES. Just flat out torched repeatedly.

Explain please............
Posted by blueslover
deeper than deep south
Member since Sep 2007
22792 posts
Posted on 8/19/08 at 8:17 am to
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fans really think the saints should shut teams out ,not score a single point!


I, and I think most fans disagree. Hopefully you know the 2007 team defensive stats that are rattled off frequently. Last, last, 30th, 26th, etc., etc. All this team needs to do defensively is not be in the bottom rung and they will be winners. If they can approach average they will be Superbowl contenders. The most telling stat from last year is that opposing QBs combined against NO had a passer rating higher than Steve Young lifetime (NFL record).
Posted by The Sad Banana
The gate is narrow.
Member since Jul 2008
89507 posts
Posted on 8/19/08 at 8:28 am to
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What's the point in playing an entire season if you start out preseason hearing boos?
Because the fans are paying A LOT of their money to go see millionaires dog it on a football field. I know it's the last thing you should be thinking while in the Dome, but when you see a performance like Saturday's (preseason or not), it's definitely discouraging.

However...it was just one football game in the preseason. And, one player (or maybe a few more) got really burned on the defensive unit. When it all comes together on Week 1, the Saints will be ready.
This post was edited on 8/19/08 at 8:31 am
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
35564 posts
Posted on 8/19/08 at 8:53 am to
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Man, I love drew, but he's wrong on this one. Just look at the numbers from last year and that should explain the boos. We've seen no improvement and he flat out got abused. NO EXCUSES. Just flat out torched repeatedly.

Explain please............


Brees is just taking up for one of his teammates. You know that he and Colston go get a beer after practice and talk about how bad the defense is and how much Jason David sucks, but puclicly he's the leader of the team and has to support all the players
Posted by whodatfan
Member since Mar 2008
21959 posts
Posted on 8/19/08 at 9:28 am to
You're right. Sorry, Drew. You're the man. Always do the right thing.
Posted by LSUpsychWARD
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2007
4378 posts
Posted on 8/19/08 at 9:29 am to
I just hope David can improve enough to become a solid nickel/dime corner this year
Posted by TigerChiro
Baton Rouge/Dallas
Member since Jun 2008
73 posts
Posted on 8/19/08 at 11:06 am to
These are hate groups on facebook lol

Jason David is killing the Saints

AND...

Who dat gonna beat them saints? (Jason David #42)

Lastly...

Saints, get rid of F@#$ Jason David


This post was edited on 8/19/08 at 11:11 am
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