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re: The NCAA needs to address the 25 signing limit.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:31 am to VermilionTiger
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:31 am to VermilionTiger
I wouldn't mind a cap of 55 or so but with much less restictions on who can sign. Just require there to be 55 total at certain times during the year like Aug 1 or Mar 1 to prevent over signing and allow schools to sign whoever they want.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:33 am to Lptigerfan
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I like it the way it is. Otherwise, it's just going to be the rich getting richer.
Still a total limit tho.
So teams would have to shed players to sign others and then those players would go somewhere else.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:34 am to VermilionTiger
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Because I care about the sport more than I care about LSU
You are entitled that opinion. The sport is fine. There are plenty of schools to go play for. I could care less about ULL or ULM's football program. As a taxpayer of the State of Louisiana, I am more worried about them meeting their education obligations to the State of LA.
I don't like subsidizing ULL, or ULM's football program anymore than I like subsidizing misguided Federal Programs any any form, Corporate or Social welfare.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:36 am to JKChesterton
I mean to be completely fair I think the sport would do well from having no scholarships and just letting kids get paid over the table for NIL. If Bama boosters wants to give a kid 2 mil to come there, go for it. School saves literally millions a year on scholarships and the kids aren't jumping to the NFL as soon as possible.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:39 am to JKChesterton
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The sport is fine
Yes
Knowing 3 out of the 4 teams that will make the playoff, every year, is a sign of the sport being fine
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:42 am to GhostofJackson
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I mean to be completely fair I think the sport would do well from having no scholarships and just letting kids get paid over the table for NIL. If Bama boosters wants to give a kid 2 mil to come there, go for it. School saves literally millions a year on scholarships and the kids aren't jumping to the NFL as soon as possible.
Well if you go to that model, then you turn it into Professional sports league almost, well maybe semi-pro. Are the football players now employees of the University? DO they have to now pay taxes? What happens if one of your player does not comply with IRS rules, who is guilty to potential tax evasion, the University, the player or both? Can the Players Unionize?
I would rather see the NFL have a semi-pro league and kids who want to get paid to play go that route, pay everyone a base salary of $60-80K a year and after 3 years in Semi Pro, they go to the draft with the college players. Kids who go to college would get less scholarship aide, and be kids who want to get an Education first and foremost and use football as a tool to get a College degree.
Quality of College ball would not be the same, but all this recruiting arms race, over and under the table would go away.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:51 am to VermilionTiger
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Yes
Knowing 3 out of the 4 teams that will make the playoff, every year, is a sign of the sport being fine
VermillionTIger: It has always been this way. I don't know how old you are. I am in my mid 50's. In the 1970's, and before that back to the 30's, you had 4 bigtime major bowls, the Cotton, Sugar, Rose and Orange. The Fiesta sort of jumped into the game in 1986 when Penn State and Miami, both Independents agreed to play as 1 and 2 in the Fiesta since neither had conference tie ins. 12 years later we had the BCS era.
If you go back to the 1970's, the era I grew up in, you had essentially 4 teams that dominated, USC, Alabama, Notre Dame and Oklahoma. A couple of teams here and there jumped in, such as Nebraska in the early 70's and Pitt with Tony Dorsett in I think 1976.
Had you had a playoff in the 70's, Notre Dame, USC, Oklahoma and Alabama would have out of 40 playoff spots over 10 yeas, had probably collectively 30 to 35 of those. Every era (ie. Decade) has had 4 or 5 dominate teams. It has always been that way.
College Basketall back in the 60's and 70's was even more dominated by 1 team, UCLA, back then the NCAA only had 16 teams I think invited to the NCAA tourney, they expanded the tourney, I think too much in fact, but going to like 32 then 48 opened it up for more programs and you started seeing more team win NC's.
To help football, I think 8 team playoff is a way to go, all 5 P FIve Conference champs qualify and 3 wildcards. Too me that keeps the integrity of the regular season since winning a conference title matters and for teams in the more competitive leagues, you loose a close road game in league play and miss out on your Conference Title, you can still earn a wildcard.
Just my view, but I think that will help the sport more. If anything it would get the PAC 12 footprint back invested as football out in that part of the world is on life support.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:58 am to Chanman8
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NFL teams have 90 guys. 53 for gamedays
This is so wrong. They can bring 90 to training camp, 53 is your roster, and a practice squad of 12. 25 of that 90 is cut before the season starts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 10:11 am to JKChesterton
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VermillionTIger: It has always been this way. I don't know how old you are.
I’m old enough to remember the 2000s and this was not the case
Posted on 12/16/20 at 10:16 am to VermilionTiger
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I’m old enough to remember the 2000s and this was not the case
There were 16 BCS Championship games, and only 15 teams played in it.
We have had 6 College football playoffs, and 11 teams have appeared in it. Now it looks like this year will be 4 teams that already appeared in it, Bama, Ohio State, Clemson and Notre Dame.
So not sure I agree with your 2000's (core BCS era) analysis. In fact, I think the data does not support your argument.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 10:45 am to VermilionTiger
Simple solution is that any non-graduate transfer counts towards the 25. Grad transfers are limited to 3 or 5.
It’s not that hard. Also, if you are a bad evaluator or and arse as a coach that pushes his to leave, you shouldn’t get to use this system to make up for it.
It’s not that hard. Also, if you are a bad evaluator or and arse as a coach that pushes his to leave, you shouldn’t get to use this system to make up for it.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 10:53 am to TigerCrude
Transfers should count only towards the 85 total not 25 incoming. this makes sense so NCAA will not approve.
Posted on 12/16/20 at 10:59 am to TigerCrude
I like the hard cap. It’s going to dissuade a lot of players from transferring just to transfer moving forward. There’s about to be a TON of kids transferring themselves out of football this year
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