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Posted on 12/16/20 at 6:52 am
Posted by Buga225
Denham Springs
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 12/16/20 at 6:52 am
While I agree with everyone here that this season has been a huge disappointment and shall never be acceptable at a program like LSU. Everything from coaching, opt outs, transfers, Sexual assault allegations, it has just been a disaster. However Saturday really showed the potential of this past recruiting class and it looks like it may have the potential to be one of Orgerons best. For a bunch of young 18-19 year olds to fight the way they did and never give up on this season shows me that they want to be at LSU and win championships. Not to mention if O can close out this recruiting class this year I can definitely see potential for another championship run. There are certain things that I believe need to change in order for this to happen.

1. Pelini needs to go/ improve hiring of assistants

Defense is still historically awful and giving up 600 yards a game. Players from last year have regressed. We need to find a young coordinator that knows more about defending the modernized spread. Also it’s going to take O not hiring a friend!

2. Culture change

This year has drastically showed the problems that LSU has been facing for years with opt outs, and people leaving early for the draft. I don’t know if there’s a certain way to change this completely but the results on the field this year and everything that has happen can be a culture change for these young freshman and sophomore. Having upperclassman quit on you and basically not caring about the team I believe can have an affect on our young players in a good way. They haven’t had that success and you can just tell with the effort on the field that they really want it. Not saying that’s a 100% a fix but I believe it will help.

3. Recruiting better offensive lineman

While they had there best game of the year this past Saturday, there is still tons of room for improvement to be championship caliber. Need to recruit elite oline man and sign them. Immediate impact guys that aren’t 2-3 year projects until they see the field. Next thing is our best players need to see the field and tommy moffit needs to get kardell Thomas and Bradford to lose weight. Unacceptable for our coaches to allow players to just be lazy and prevent improvement. When Bradford has played you can just see the guy is a mauler with massive potential.Just those two can improve the interior. While Shanahan has struggled this year, I have seen improvement from him as each game goes by. We need to improve at tackle, while rosenthal looks physically like he can be an all sec tackle, sometimes it looks like he lacks effort. Hopefully another year can improve that. If we don’t hit on leigh, we need to sign some immediate impact guys to give help now!! Whether it’s from juco or the
portal, it needs to happen.

With everything being said and everything that has gone on this year I believe there’s still hope in the future if we can fix a few things!
Geaux tigers
This post was edited on 12/16/20 at 11:33 am
Posted by Chalkywhite84
New orleans
Member since Dec 2016
33713 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 6:57 am to
I cant disagree with any point and i dont think most would

I also think shanahan improved throughout the season and is smart

We are probably stuck with him anyway. Im pretty sure they figured he would be here for 2 years

Crazy thing is cregg actually thought charles turner could be a center
Posted by LSUstephen17
Houston
Member since Aug 2010
13112 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 7:00 am to
We’re still recruiting at an elite level. Expect 2-3 big commits today. We will close with a top 5 class for sure
Posted by LSUDonMCO
Orlando
Member since Dec 2003
8183 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 7:01 am to
I agree with point 1 and 2. Not sure if it's the coach or players fault about OL, but if a better candidate becomes available I won't cry if he gets the boot.
Posted by Buga225
Denham Springs
Member since Jan 2015
493 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 7:03 am to
Not disagreeing, the recruiting has been elite. Oline recruiting hasn’t been however!
This post was edited on 12/16/20 at 7:04 am
Posted by bstew3006
318
Member since Dec 2007
12999 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 7:40 am to
quote:

We’re still recruiting at an elite level. Expect 2-3 big commits today. We will close with a top 5 class for sure



LSU is recruiting at an Elite level with skill positions.

LSU is not recruiting at an Elite level on the OL. There needs to be changes in OL recruiting strategy. They are either missing in evaluation or in development...I believe both. But go back to 2000 and look at the OL recruiting classes from 2000-2009. Pay attention to the amount of recruits and caliber of OL recruits.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465366 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 7:46 am to
quote:

LSU is recruiting at an Elite level with skill positions.

LSU is not recruiting at an Elite level on the OL. There needs to be changes in OL recruiting strategy. They are either missing in evaluation or in development...

oh man

i'm channeling my CheeriO sales pitches from 2017 and onward
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
32989 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 7:48 am to
Not even 8am yet and Saban already flipped a commit from O.
Posted by TeamLSU
Member since Feb 2009
3628 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 8:13 am to
quote:

We’re still recruiting at an elite level. Expect 2-3 big commits today. We will close with a top 5 class for sure




While recruiting at an elite level is vital, Meeting Needs in the recruiting class is of equal importance. Doesn't do any good to have a top ranked class and whiff on obvious holes like the Oline.
Posted by JohnnyDrama12
Little Chenier, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2017
182 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 8:18 am to
Hold your horses on the top 5 finish there buster
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
4489 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 8:28 am to
I think they may be missing in both, evaluation and development. They also need to stop taking chances on projects ( maybe some of this happens because the elite guys go elsewhere and in that case I understand them doing it ), The oline has to be a priority, let’s face it, Joe Burrow and Joe Brady helped that oline tremendously last year and is a big reason they won that award. Being able to get the ball out, either on time or because of diagnosis, helps an oline and makes their job easier. If you don’t do those things well, you better have a great oline.
Posted by dome53
Member since Apr 2009
1845 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 8:30 am to
I agree I just don't have faith that O can do it. If he didn't see the issue of zone D against Moo state or that Stingley should cover D. Smith, he will never get it all right. Not enough awareness to sustain a program at the elite level.
Posted by mhc4tigers
Member since Aug 2016
4534 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 8:51 am to
Our O line coach did not become stupid in one year... you guys have lost your minds.

Agree on young DC not pretending to know who that is... Raymond and Bush will quit. If we do that
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
32989 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:47 am to
come on, joe burrow had a lot to do with that oline looking good.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13735 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 9:54 am to
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come on, joe burrow had a lot to do with that oline looking good


He helped I am not denying that but two of those guys were week one NFL starters. One was a 3 star recruit that was developed into a great center. Sahdiq Charles’s off the field problems prevented him from being a top 2 round pick.
Posted by lsutiger2010
Member since Aug 2008
14790 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 10:00 am to
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This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 12:25 pm
Posted by Buga225
Denham Springs
Member since Jan 2015
493 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 11:34 am to
Another reason I believe the offensive line looked much improved was max being able to read the defense and get the ball out quick. Even tho it was mostly designed, his decision making is much quicker than what we”ve seen from Finley. Just by having that ability relieves so much pressure off the oline
This post was edited on 12/16/20 at 11:35 am
Posted by bigtig
Member since Aug 2005
977 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 11:39 am to
Yep I think all three apply especially the need for O linemen each and every year. Game starts and is finished up front both sides of the ball. If we don't fix O line we will not be in the top of college football.
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
10083 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 4:38 pm to
Regime change but need a good hire
Posted by tiger chaser
Birmingham Ala
Member since Feb 2008
7705 posts
Posted on 12/16/20 at 5:07 pm to
So what’s your title? Expert... coaching guru...
Or are you just a know it all and have all the answers. Pelini isn’t going anywhere ... not this year anyway. Get over it
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