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Payton made two huge gambles that luckily paid off
Posted on 11/2/20 at 9:53 am
Posted on 11/2/20 at 9:53 am
1. Calling a timeout after the Bears TE fumbled and it was ruled forward progress.
I know this infuriated everyone, myself included. Had they called it immediately on the field then no one would be pissed at this perceived attempt at a screw job. But Payton calling a timeout after the play, giving the Bears a free timeout in the process, wasn't smart. Payton burned a TO just to yell at the refs, where in the end it didn't change anything. It assisted the Bears in driving the field for the FG to sent it to OT.
2. Not running the clock all the way down before the winning FG
For many this is moot because Lutz made the FG. But this shows Payton's arrogance that can win a game as much as it can lose a game. The end result of this game should only have been a Saints win or a tie game. A tie would suck, but it's better than a loss. If Lutz were to miss it (and lets be honest, the odds that he would make it were super high) the Bears would have plenty of time and timeouts to get into position for the win. Had that happened, Payton would be roasted.
All this said, the defense isn't good enough to take that gamble. Not with the way we commit penalties in the secondary.
Oh well...live by the sword, die by the sword.
I know this infuriated everyone, myself included. Had they called it immediately on the field then no one would be pissed at this perceived attempt at a screw job. But Payton calling a timeout after the play, giving the Bears a free timeout in the process, wasn't smart. Payton burned a TO just to yell at the refs, where in the end it didn't change anything. It assisted the Bears in driving the field for the FG to sent it to OT.
2. Not running the clock all the way down before the winning FG
For many this is moot because Lutz made the FG. But this shows Payton's arrogance that can win a game as much as it can lose a game. The end result of this game should only have been a Saints win or a tie game. A tie would suck, but it's better than a loss. If Lutz were to miss it (and lets be honest, the odds that he would make it were super high) the Bears would have plenty of time and timeouts to get into position for the win. Had that happened, Payton would be roasted.
All this said, the defense isn't good enough to take that gamble. Not with the way we commit penalties in the secondary.
Oh well...live by the sword, die by the sword.
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Posted on 11/2/20 at 9:55 am to LSUZombie
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But this shows Payton's arrogance that can win a game as much as it can lose a game. The end result of this game should only have been a Saints win or a tie game.
he showed full faith in his boy, his kicker, even after a missed chip shot earlier
I won't be upset in putting faith in someone who has now won you 3 straight games
Posted on 11/2/20 at 10:34 am to LSUZombie
My only thinking about the field goal would be if you miss it, you could still hold the bears and get the ball back.
Posted on 11/2/20 at 10:34 am to LSUZombie
We should've run the clock down. That was just stupid.
Posted on 11/2/20 at 10:50 am to LSUZombie
These “gambles” didn’t “pay off”. These were errors that we won in spite of.
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:25 am to LSUZombie
I didn’t hate kicking the ball to win the game.
Team and Kamara were tired. Kamara bobbled the ball a few plays before on an easy pass and dropped the ball after being tackled because he wasn’t holding it as tight as he should have been. That plus the two near interceptions are reasons not to run a play.
As for kneeling it, they had two time outs so it’s not like a ton of time would have been run off.
If there was a botched snap or something, we could have covered it and had another chance to kick it.
We were in good range and besides that earlier kick, Lutz has been an amazing kicker. So just go out and win the game.
I know the announcers were full of questions which makes others question the call, but as a fan I was fine with kicking it there.
Team and Kamara were tired. Kamara bobbled the ball a few plays before on an easy pass and dropped the ball after being tackled because he wasn’t holding it as tight as he should have been. That plus the two near interceptions are reasons not to run a play.
As for kneeling it, they had two time outs so it’s not like a ton of time would have been run off.
If there was a botched snap or something, we could have covered it and had another chance to kick it.
We were in good range and besides that earlier kick, Lutz has been an amazing kicker. So just go out and win the game.
I know the announcers were full of questions which makes others question the call, but as a fan I was fine with kicking it there.
Posted on 11/2/20 at 11:43 am to LSUZombie
It is not that gamble #2 paid off. It just didn't come back to bite us. I am not complaining. We got the W.
Posted on 11/2/20 at 12:05 pm to LSUZombie
The time out was fine considering the magnitude of the play
Had to make sure that it couldn’t be looked at
Had to make sure that it couldn’t be looked at
Posted on 11/2/20 at 12:15 pm to LSUZombie
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But Payton calling a timeout after the play, giving the Bears a free timeout in the process, wasn't smart. Payton burned a TO just to yell at the refs
My first thought was like every one else, "that's an unnecessary timeout". Then during the timeout I changed my mind. SP called a timeout so his defense could regroup after the celebration.
Posted on 11/2/20 at 12:25 pm to LSUZombie
I agree with ya brah, you got downvoted a lot, why, I don't know, but you're right on it.
Posted on 11/2/20 at 12:34 pm to LSUZombie
I LOVED that he kicked it on first down. You could tell he was on the sideline stewing over the game. Get your arse out there, drill this kick, and lets GTF out of here
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