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re: Senator Sheldon Whitehouse masterclass on dark money

Posted on 10/14/20 at 8:20 pm to
Posted by Nosevens
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Posted on 10/14/20 at 8:20 pm to
Now do whitehouse on putting his friends in play for judgeships
Posted by hogcard1964
Illinois
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Posted on 10/14/20 at 8:22 pm to
I hope you're being facetious?
Posted by doublecutter
Hear & Their
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Posted on 10/14/20 at 8:24 pm to
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You mean "Sheldon Whitehoush".


Sheldon Shithoush
Posted by TigerRanter
Louisiana
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Posted on 10/14/20 at 8:24 pm to
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You mean "Sheldon Whitehoush".
Weldon Shitehouse
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 10/14/20 at 8:26 pm to
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Sounds like you're saying we need to overturn Citizen's United and I completely agree.

wait, so precedent doesn't matter anymore?
Posted by Sooner5030
Desert Southwest
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 10/14/20 at 8:26 pm to
Can someone change to read money instead of humor.

Posted by Pocket Kingz
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 10/14/20 at 8:30 pm to
Lemme guess, you're an "originalist."

Also, do you have a better idea on how to get money out of politics or are you actually ignorant enough to buy the "drain the swamp" schtick?
This post was edited on 10/14/20 at 8:32 pm
Posted by LuckyTiger
Someone's Alter
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Posted on 10/14/20 at 8:32 pm to
Whitehouse is a stupid worthless frick.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 10/14/20 at 8:33 pm to
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Sounds like you're saying we need to overturn Citizen's United and I completely agree.


You're into banning books, huh comrade?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 10/14/20 at 8:33 pm to
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Lemme guess, you're an "originalist."

what does that have to do with precedent?

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Also, do you have a better idea on how to get money out of politics

certainly not by limiting speech. you do realized Citizens United was centered around a movie being played on cable television, right? it wasn't even over FCC-regulated airwaves, it was on unregulated CABLE. you think the government should have the ability to make it illegal for a cable channel to play a movie?

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or are you actually ignorant enough to buy the "drain the swamp" schtick?

if you want to drain the swamp, remove power from the swamp
Posted by Pocket Kingz
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 10/14/20 at 8:34 pm to
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You're into banning books, huh comrade?


Please show your work here.
Posted by Zahrim
McCamey Texas
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Posted on 10/14/20 at 8:34 pm to
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Pocket Kingz


look a fricking leftist bot trying desperately push lies as facts.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9142 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 8:34 pm to
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Also, do you have a better idea on how to get money out of politics


Yes. Slash the ever loving frick out of government spending.

Amazing how you guys think an institution that shells out TRILLIONS of dollars ever year, won't have cronies lining up around the block, no matter what the laws, to get those sweet government contracts.
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 10/14/20 at 8:35 pm to
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Please show your work here.


Hold on while I get you the exact transcript of the lawyers admitting that books could be banned under the statue that was being challenged.

Honestly, how did you not know this already? Do you think CNN is really in the business of educating you?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 10/14/20 at 8:39 pm to
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Hold on while I get you the exact transcript of the lawyers admitting that books could be banned under the statue that was being challenged.

yeah i mean if a cable network could be censored, then there is no reason why a publishing company would be automatically exempt
Posted by Pocket Kingz
Little Rock
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1752 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 8:39 pm to
That will obviously be the conservative plan once power swings. Notice a pattern?
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9142 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 8:39 pm to
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To this, the Deputy Solicitor General was backed against the wall, and did not retreat from his earlier pro-government regulatory position. "[A] corporation could be barred from using its general treasury funds to publish the book and could be required to … raise funds to publish the book using its PAC" with contribution limited by campaign finance law, Stewart insisted.

Then the Chief Justice chimed in, asking whether that would be true if the book contained only "one use of the candidate’s name"?

"That’s correct," Stewart responded a few interchanges later, further explaining, "Yes, [the government’s] position would be that [any] corporation could be required to use PAC funds rather than general treasury funds."

"And if they didn’t, you could ban it?" the Chief Justice made crystal clear.

"If they didn’t, we could prohibit the publication of the book," Stewart agreed.


Again, how did you not know this? I mean, even if you watched Cruz's statements, RIGHT AFTER Sheldon's statements, you would have been informed about it.

How can you think that you are informed when you don't even attempt to dig into the "other side" of views you currently have?
Posted by stuntman
Florida
Member since Jan 2013
9142 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 8:40 pm to
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yeah i mean if a cable network could be censored, then there is no reason why a publishing company would be automatically exempt


Yep, and that's pretty much the line of questioning Alito went down.
Posted by Pocket Kingz
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2013
1752 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 8:41 pm to
I haven't watched CNN since they helped lead us into the invasion of Iraq.

Your assumption definitely paints you as someone that watches 24 hour news.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
28084 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 8:41 pm to
You don't think Democrats have these types of organizations that essentially do the same thing?
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