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SC Pick Prediction: Put up or shutup

Posted on 9/20/20 at 9:51 am
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 9/20/20 at 9:51 am
He should pick Bill Pryor but I think he goes with the Cuban lady.

I am ready for a hardliner (someone to the right of Pinochet or Genghis Kahn), I am tired of these Bush type picks.

This post was edited on 9/20/20 at 9:52 am
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
16991 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 9:56 am to
He should pick Amy Coney Barrett and that’s the consensus, but I think he picks the Cuban Lady bc Florida
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
14337 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 9:56 am to
quote:

He should pick Bill Pryor but I think he goes with the Cuban lady.

I am ready for a hardliner (someone to the right of Pinochet or Genghis Kahn), I am tired of these Bush type picks.



100% Agree!

Bill Pryor is the right pick, but politics will force him to pick a woman.
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 10:01 am to
I’m ok with any of those 3.

He will pick the one he thinks the senate will have the least issues confirming (though they SHOULD have no issue with any of them).

That will probably be Lagoa

The left will come after Barrett over religion and abortion, Pryor will be crucified just because he’s a guy and might have had a few beers and kissed a girl in college.

Lagoa was previously confirmed 85-15 or something so it will be hard to argue that she shouldn’t be confirmed again.
This post was edited on 9/20/20 at 10:06 am
Posted by roadkill
East Coast, FL
Member since Oct 2008
2081 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 10:13 am to
Conventional wisdom says Barrett or Lagoa (for the FL Cubans) but I live in FL and believe it is safely in the Trump column - I would appoint Rushing and try to solidify NC.
Posted by Waldorf
Member since Aug 2020
256 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 10:20 am to
-He picks Lagoa and confirmation will be before the election. Zero democrats will vote for anyone he picks so frick them. He's doing it for the election to shore up Florida, Hispanics and woman.

-He gets re-elected

-Senate stays with GOP

-House stays with Democrats.

-Next impeachment begins by March. I would predict at least two impeachments with zero convictions during his second term.

-Next open seat on the SCOTUS goes directly to Barrett.
This post was edited on 9/20/20 at 10:22 am
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
34163 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 11:01 am to
quote:

He should pick Amy Coney Barrett and that’s the consensus, but I think he picks the Cuban Lady bc Florida


I think doing so would be a BIG mistake in exchange for a potential short term gain that may or may not even be necessary.

The "pros" for chosing Lagoa are: 1. She is Cuban and from Florida, which could help secure a critical swing state; 2. she was easily confirmed to the 11th Circuit just last year (80-15). Thus, for the D's to "block" her would require a complete about-face for OBVIOUS political reasons.

The cons are that I don't think she is a trustworthy as Barrett if the goal is to put in a strict originalist. She was first appointed to the bench by Jeb. Anything with the Bush "stink" on it is cause for concern (no vulgar pun intended). Plus, her FIL is a Clinton appointed US Dist. Judge.

Barrett was a Scalia clerk. Her confirmation to the 7th Circuit in 2017 was much more contentious (only 3 D's voted to confirm her). Thus, it would seem to be much harder to get her confirmed (Perhaps that in and of itself is very telling).

While lawyers and political wonks care about the USSC, the average voter doesn't. There is no guarantee Lagoa's appointment would shore up Florida. Conversely, there is no guarantee passing her over would "lose" Florida. But the wrong choice on the USSC could be a "lifetime" mistake. We are already seeing that with Roberts.

To me, the choice here is a complete no-brainer. You go with Barrett. Make the Dems trash a woman leading up to the election. The Kavanaugh fiasco was a great campaigning episode in favor of Trump. Now let's have another RIGHT before the election. Plus, if Barrett is confirmed, even if Trump loses, you still have secured the Court.

The fact that Senate Democrats didn't put up much of a fight to confirm Lagoa should tell you EVERYTHING you need to know
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 11:05 am to
Pryor is awesome but he’s almost 60, too old.
Posted by YF12
Ottobaan
Member since Nov 2019
4451 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 11:05 am to
quote:

The fact that Senate Democrats didn't put up much of a fight to confirm Lagoa should tell you EVERYTHING you need to know



This.

All the Democrats will vote no for either of them at this point and Collins/Murkowski flippity floppy decision is going to be the same regardless of who it is.

So you dont compromise
Posted by memphis tiger
Memphis, TN
Member since Feb 2006
20720 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 11:09 am to
quote:

but I think he picks the Cuban Lady bc Florida



Does this really matter?

Are people really going to vote based on a SCOTUS nominee from their state.

People care about the court but I don’t think they care where the nominee is from
Posted by RazorOye
Oceania
Member since Dec 2007
54 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 11:09 am to
quote:

He should pick Bill Pryor but I think he goes with the Cuban lady.


or, alternatively, he will pick Barbara Lagoa but I think he should pick the White dude.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 11:11 am to
quote:

Are people really going to vote based on a SCOTUS nominee from their state.


They don’t. People just latch to stupid things. It should be ACB.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
34132 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 11:18 am to
He can appoint Bill Pryor next term.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55386 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 11:23 am to
Again.. NOTHING from a BUSH Appointee married to a Clinton family.


You people can not be serious to think this is smart. FL is not in play for the DEMS
Posted by L1C4
The Ville
Member since Aug 2017
16173 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 11:26 am to
It better be ACB.
I think it would cause a bigger melt and the hearings will be great.
Posted by AUFANATL
Member since Dec 2007
5082 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 11:30 am to
quote:

Are people really going to vote based on a SCOTUS nominee from their state.


Cubans in South Florida would. Having a Supreme Court justice would be a point of pride for them. And there are well over 1 million Cubans in South Florida. That's a huge demographic bloc in a swing state.

That's why Gore lost in 2000. The Elain Gonzalez / Janet Reno fiasco sent the South Florida Cubans into a rage and they showed up in huge numbers to vote for Bush.

It's hard to imagine Trump losing Florida but winning the general. He would have to do really well in the Rust Belt.
Posted by fatheadgator
Sanford, Fl
Member since Oct 2006
1354 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 11:35 am to
quote:

Conventional wisdom says Barrett or Lagoa (for the FL Cubans) but I live in FL and believe it is safely in the Trump column - I would appoint Rushing and try to solidify NC.


Florida is not safely w/ Trump...no one is a “safe win” for Florida- in the last 6 Presidential elections there has been over 40M votes with a 85k vote spread - Lagoa will help Trump shore up cuban/Hispanic votes...he needs all the help he can get
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
41497 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 11:35 am to
Cuban lady because of Florida and the Hispanic vote

Barrett is already a lightning rod because of her conservative Catholic faith and positions on Roe v Wade and it would ugly (uglier) real quick
This post was edited on 9/20/20 at 11:38 am
Posted by Hamma1122
Member since Sep 2016
21928 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 11:53 am to
Amy
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
8280 posts
Posted on 9/20/20 at 12:00 pm to
Lagoa would bring out the Cuban vote. Hard to find a more successful immigrant group and one that appreciates this country more.

I'd be fine with Barrett too, but I think he goes with Lagoa. It shores up Florida, she was recently confirmed , and you have the prospect of making Harris go after a Hispanic lady during the hearings. It's one thing for her to trash a white preppie, another to go after a Hispanic lady.

The hearings take her off the campaign trail and put her on TV. It's much easier for her score points by attacking Barrett on her religious views.
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