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re: $500 a day keeps the day job away

Posted on 8/27/20 at 8:51 pm to
Posted by LSURN98
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Posted on 8/27/20 at 8:51 pm to
I definitely think I could do it, but I would have to quit my day job and focus solely on it. I only work half the year and on the days I can focus on technicals I do extremely well with options trades, almost exclusively trading puts.

This however is in my play account and I keep a base of 50k and will sometimes hold these positions for less than 10 minutes, don’t hold them overnight and obviously never, ever over the weekend.

I use SMA, EMA, MACD, RSI, but mostly watch moving averages and pull the trigger on crossovers. But it is very time intensive. I basically can’t be doing anything else.

Curious what the options master Jag_warrior has to say.

Posted by cgrand
HAMMOND
Member since Oct 2009
38921 posts
Posted on 8/27/20 at 8:55 pm to
right
I don’t think you could do it unless it was the only thing you did.
way too much studying required
Posted by thatguy777
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Posted on 8/27/20 at 8:56 pm to
Net seller of options day trading them? I tend to look for good chart set ups with bullish option flow.
Posted by Jag_Warrior
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Member since May 2015
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Posted on 8/31/20 at 8:32 am to
quote:

Curious what the options master Jag_warrior has to say.


Thanks for the shout out.

I’d say, based on people who truly are experts (like Tom Sosnoff), that it’s best to focus on percentage gains (or losses) rather than raw $ amounts. And although the overwhelming majority of what I do is based on being a net seller of premium in high IV percentile environments, putting a small percentage of a portfolio into speculative long option positions isn’t a bad strategy. Losses are limited and gains are infinite, with the leverage providing crazy percentage returns. That’s what you’ve seen, right?

In the post before yours, thatguy777 mentioned money management being key. And I totally agree with that. IMO, no one should be using the anomaly that 2020 is to gauge the success (or failure) of any trading strategy. But over time, backtesting various strategies can show what typical returns *should* look like. For what I do, 20% is about average. But I’ve had 40%+ years and I’ve had losing years. Part of money management is seeing what a strategy looks like from peak to trough over time.

I invest in stocks, but don’t really trade them. But if I did, I’d work to develop a long/short strategy, and probably one(s) that also included options for hedging purposes. A few months ago, I mentioned a guy that was on Chat With Traders awhile back. His interview is a good and entertaining listen. His name is Bao. He’s a little spastic, but he’s worth paying attention to - he went from a six figure engineering job to making over a million a year with not that much money starting out (upper five figure account as best I recall). But he was gaming less experienced Robinhood type traders in micro caps and the OTC markets. He grew to be a shark feeding on naive fish, as he put it. So that was his edge. My edge is selling high IV and waiting for a reversion to the mean, or IV crush after earnings announcements. Finding an edge over time is key too.

Good luck to all.
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