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Elitist NYT article on Haynesville Shale

Posted on 7/29/08 at 1:21 pm
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29869 posts
Posted on 7/29/08 at 1:21 pm
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 7/29/08 at 1:30 pm to
On Saturday the WSJ published an article on the Chinese version of this story ( LINK):

quote:

Disney Rumors
Spur Money Grab

In a Chinese City
Locals See a Payoff
If Shanghai Gets Park;
Mr. Chen's 'Garden'
By JAMES T. AREDDY and PETER SANDERS
July 26, 2008; Page A1

...

Disney fever is sweeping Shanghai, and it has little to do with giddy anticipation of Mickey Mouse and company. It's about cash. Homeowners and businesses in the Shanghai village of Jinjia, where the rumors are focused, expect their properties will be bought up to make way for a Shanghai Disneyland. Residents expect that compensation will be proportional to the size of their houses, and even the number of trees on their property.

So, in a country with a well-known weakness for gambling, people are putting up new homes or adding extra rooms -- sometimes in defiance of local development laws -- for the shot at a payday.

...


What can you say? Speculative boom times happen.
Posted by tigerjohnny
baton rouge
Member since Mar 2005
2500 posts
Posted on 7/29/08 at 1:38 pm to
they painted a pretty grimm picture of shreveport before the shale, I don't think it was quite as bad as they think it was
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29869 posts
Posted on 7/29/08 at 1:39 pm to
Quotes from the NYT:

quote:

Jalopies are being traded in for Cadillacs, plans for swimming pools are being hatched in rusty trailers


quote:

Some very modest people, in a place where the Tough Steak Meat Market sits near the Triple J Motors car lot and the courthouse square is half boarded up, are becoming very wealthy, very quickly.


Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29869 posts
Posted on 7/29/08 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

The hotels and bars in Shreveport, a long-suffering city near the Texas line, with its semiabandoned downtown and tomblike quiet after 5 p.m.




Casinos, movies, natural gas, etc.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
91781 posts
Posted on 7/29/08 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

So far, relative restraint — or perhaps bewilderment — reigns.


F*** the NYT. Its inconcievable for them to think average Americans can handle a windfall. Go to hell you elite pompus New England faux-intellectuals. We're going to be just fine down here.
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
73861 posts
Posted on 7/29/08 at 1:55 pm to
I didnt realize I lived in such a ghost town
Posted by tigerjohnny
baton rouge
Member since Mar 2005
2500 posts
Posted on 7/29/08 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

I didnt realize I lived in such a ghost town


according to them I think the only people from shreveport are the few of us in the thread
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29869 posts
Posted on 7/29/08 at 2:13 pm to
I'm not from Shreveport, but my wife is. There is no way you can say that Shreveport is a ghost town. If they get the cyber-command center it will definitely be booming.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15344 posts
Posted on 7/29/08 at 2:26 pm to
You want elitism, check out the "Secondary plays on Haynesville Shale" thread by Jersey Tiger. It's harsher on North Louisiana than the NYT by a long shot.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109858 posts
Posted on 7/29/08 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

You want elitism, check out the "Secondary plays on Haynesville Shale" thread by Jersey Tiger. It's harsher on North Louisiana than the NYT by a long shot.


Posted by RAGINTIGER
Homeless
Member since Dec 2003
6539 posts
Posted on 7/29/08 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

The hotels and bars in Shreveport, a long-suffering city near the Texas line, with its semiabandoned downtown and tomblike quiet after 5 p.m., are now filled with the oil company landmen, whose numbers have blossomed overnight from the low hundreds into the thousands, by some accounts.


Yeah you have to watch out for the tumbleweeds at certain times of day What a crock of shite. If the want to see dead; Shreveport/Bossier if far from semiabandoned compared to other cities around the state. I think they must think we still are riding horse and carriages to work still.
Posted by Colonel Hapablap
Mostly Harmless
Member since Nov 2003
28791 posts
Posted on 7/29/08 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

It's harsher on North Louisiana than the NYT by a long shot.

yeah, it's because we all have those kinds of people in our own families.
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 7/29/08 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

You want elitism, check out the "Secondary plays on Haynesville Shale" thread by Jersey Tiger. It's harsher on North Louisiana than the NYT by a long shot.


Oh come on, you can't be serious. It wasn't "elitism" and it certainly wasn't specific to Louisiana.
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 7/29/08 at 2:45 pm to
Seriously, I challenge you to find elitism in this:
quote:


So, it seems to me like lots of people will be coming into lots of money with no experience whatsoever in how to deal with such sums. Obviously, I assume that car dealerships and the like are looking at an era of general prosperity. You can be even more cynical and try to think up products that fit the "what will stupid people with too much money buy" schemes.

But what other more "community-oriented" opportunities do you think will follow the Shale if it ends up hitting big? I was thinking maybe a wealth-management company, because lots of people will become Accredited Investors/Qualified Purchasers now and will be in need of quality wealth management. Their investment opportunities will suddenly extend way beyond mutual funds, bonds, etc.


LINK
Posted by Colonel Hapablap
Mostly Harmless
Member since Nov 2003
28791 posts
Posted on 7/29/08 at 2:47 pm to
I suspect he was more referring to the follow up posts that described said people. And I, for one, was only describing people that I personally know.
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
8100 posts
Posted on 7/29/08 at 2:48 pm to
quote:

It's harsher on North Louisiana


It's not just North Louisiana, it's people in general. Check out stories on past Lotto winners etc.

Also, the NYT paints us (entire NW. LA) as illiterate rednecks. Notice all of the quotes...they probaly talked several people before they could find those jewels.
Posted by Tiger JJ
Member since Aug 2010
545 posts
Posted on 7/29/08 at 2:49 pm to
Yeah. The rusty trailers remark was just ridiculous. Not just trailers, mind you -but RUSTY trailers!!!
Posted by LSU0358
Member since Jan 2005
8100 posts
Posted on 7/29/08 at 3:01 pm to
Yeah, someone should tell them we're even teaching the chillins' how to read and write down here now.
Posted by TigerDeacon
West Monroe, LA
Member since Sep 2003
29869 posts
Posted on 7/29/08 at 3:03 pm to
I didn't take the Secondary plays thread to be elitist, just talking about things we have seen people blow money on when they get unearned wealth.
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