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re: Flynn hearing live audio stream (9:30 am EST)

Posted on 8/11/20 at 11:59 am to
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57517 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 11:59 am to
quote:

Bribery isn't a hypothetical in this case.

Didn't the government use the freedom of Flynn's son as a bribe for a guilty plea?
Funny how the government coercive role is simply ignore, innit?
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
148131 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 12:02 pm to
We are listening to Judge Sullivans lawyer.

This is insane.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
148131 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 12:10 pm to
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
61844 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 12:13 pm to
quote:

Wall making news already...

AG Barr sought to dismiss Flynn case based on 'undisclosed' evidence, DOJ attorney says




quote:

Mr. Wall said the non-public information has come from other investigations, but did not elaborate.


Posted by PhDoogan
Member since Sep 2018
14947 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 12:14 pm to
Goddam- now it's Flynn's fault he didn't ask for an expedited hearing in Sullivan's kangaroo court. Honk

Powell back up.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
148131 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 12:14 pm to
Final rebuttal's.

Sidney doing very well so far.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
148131 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 12:15 pm to
quote:

Goddam- now it's Flynn's fault he didn't ask for an expedited hearing in Sullivan's kangaroo court. Honk
I couldn't believe Judge Sullivan's lawyer said this...
Posted by PhDoogan
Member since Sep 2018
14947 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 12:16 pm to
Powell bringing some fire.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
148131 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 12:20 pm to
Dec. 9th? Usually I would say this is not for Flynn's case but last time it was this delayed.
Posted by Langland
Trumplandia
Member since Apr 2014
15382 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 12:28 pm to
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Dec. 9th?

Got a feeling this is all they really wanted. To delay till after the election.
Posted by McChowder
Hammond
Member since Dec 2006
5283 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 12:28 pm to
The Government and Flynns lawyer just ran a train on the judges council lol. That was brutal.
Posted by Miner
Birmingport
Member since Nov 2017
991 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 12:29 pm to
What about Dec 9th? They not going to rule until then?
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
148131 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 12:33 pm to
At the end they said this court will meet again Dec. 9th.

The last court gave an outrageous far away date and then waited until the max time and punted to this court.



They should rule right away but I don't think they will.

This post was edited on 8/11/20 at 12:34 pm
Posted by Miner
Birmingport
Member since Nov 2017
991 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 12:33 pm to
Maybe they'll all die of Covid.
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
61844 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 12:34 pm to
The last recording ended with a Dec. 9th date, too, IIRC. They'll decide before that.
Posted by WorkinDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
9341 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

The last recording ended with a Dec. 9th date, too, IIRC. They'll decide before that.


Like November 4th??
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
12844 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

What about Dec 9th? They not going to rule until then?


They said the same thing last time...Dec 9th and everyone freaked out, but here we are today Aug 11. So when they say that they must be talking about something else.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
148131 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

Several judges among the 10 who heard the oral arguments signaled they would likely allow a lower court to rule on whether to drop the criminal charge against Flynn.

The DOJ had provided multiple reasons for U.S. District Court Judge Emmet Sullivan to throw out its own case against Flynn, who had previously pleaded guilty of lying to the FBI about his contacts with the Russian ambassador to the U.S. in the weeks before Trump’s inauguration.

But Wall, who was representing the DOJ, told a full panel of judges on the appeals court in Washington, D.C., that Barr’s judgment on Flynn’s case came “in the context of non-public information from other investigations.”

“I just wanted to make clear that it may be possible that the attorney general had before him information that he was not able to share with the court,” Wall said, “and so what we put in front of the court were the reasons that we could, but it may not be the whole picture available to the executive branch.”

Rather than promptly grant the DOJ’s request to drop the charge against Flynn, Sullivan had appointed a former judge to make arguments for the position that the case should not be tossed. Sullivan also allowed other outside parties to weigh in on the question.

In response, Flynn’s lawyers asked the appeals court to force Sullivan to grant the request to dismiss the case. A three-judge panel had ruled in favor of Flynn, but the full court later agreed to re-hear the case in response to a request from Sullivan’s lawyers.

In the hearing Tuesday, Flynn’s lawyer, Sidney Powell, said that Sullivan has “discarded any semblance of the unbiased impartial adjudicator” he is expected to be.

Powell also said that Sullivan now has the “now-glaring appearance of bias” for millions of Americans.

But Powell faced a highly skeptical-sounding group of appeals judges that aggressively questioned her argument that Sullivan had little power to do anything other than grant the Justice Department’s request to drop its prosecution of Flynn.

“The judge has to do some thinking about it, right? The judge is not simply a rubber stamp,” one of the judges asked Powell.

Beth Wilkinson, a lawyer for Sullivan, argued that he would follow the law as he pursued answers to his lingering questions before ruling on the request to dismiss Flynn’s case. She also noted that if Sullivan had been allowed to proceed with Flynn’s case as he intended, the proceedings may have ended much earlier.

“This matter could have been over on July 16, ironically, if the judge had been able to have his hearing,” Wilkinson said.

LINK



No indications in the news on when they will rule.

The last paragraph above such BS.
This post was edited on 8/11/20 at 12:50 pm
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80548 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 12:54 pm to
Was today the first time we learned there is other, non-public information known by Barr that lead to his decision? That’s a pretty important development.
This post was edited on 8/11/20 at 12:57 pm
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
61844 posts
Posted on 8/11/20 at 12:58 pm to
quote:

Was today the first time we learned there is other, non-public information known by Barr that lead to his decision?


Not all of us.
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