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Don’t the Non-Power 5 Schools Need the Rent A Win $$ to Survive?
Posted on 8/9/20 at 7:38 am
Posted on 8/9/20 at 7:38 am
I know everyone thinks the MAC’s decision to postpone is some domino but seems there is a possibility that they are canceling bc of $ and not health concerns.
I remember reading that a lot of the non power 5 schools need their rent a win $ from the power 5 schools to survive. If some Sunbelt school doesn’t get a couple 6 figure pay days from Power 5s, can they really support their programs?
Could the domino actually be the non power 5s postponing/canceling due to lack of funds from the power 5s?
I remember reading that a lot of the non power 5 schools need their rent a win $ from the power 5 schools to survive. If some Sunbelt school doesn’t get a couple 6 figure pay days from Power 5s, can they really support their programs?
Could the domino actually be the non power 5s postponing/canceling due to lack of funds from the power 5s?
This post was edited on 8/9/20 at 7:39 am
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Posted on 8/9/20 at 7:39 am to STEVED00
Well yeah
Posted on 8/9/20 at 7:41 am to STEVED00
There isnt going to be more than 2 games tops. Full season aint happening.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 7:55 am to STEVED00
The real motivation was purely financial, the MAC schools need those body bag games against Ohio State/ Wisconsin/ Penn State for their athletic departments to survive. Football doesn’t make any money and they also have to pull the dead weight of Title IX non revenue sports.
But... in a classic bitch move they threw out the “medical advice” excuse to drag the rest of the FBS and make themselves look better.
But... in a classic bitch move they threw out the “medical advice” excuse to drag the rest of the FBS and make themselves look better.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:11 am to STEVED00
We aren't P5 and we haven't had been a buy game for anyone since 1996.
So no, we don't need P5 schools.
So no, we don't need P5 schools.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:18 am to AlonsoWDC
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This post was edited on 4/9/23 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 8/9/20 at 8:31 am to msutiger
The first MAC that pulled out said it was financial. UConn pulled out only after all teams on its schedule basically cancelled the games. Then, in an effort to spin, the coaches and school administrators come out and said they cancelled due to safety for the players. If that was the true case, they would have cancelled before the P5 schools basically offed the smaller schools from their schedules.
Now, the WOKE media, knowing full well and good that many of these schools couldn’t adhere to the testing requirements because of lack of finances, which the bigger schools can, are taking the story and running with it that the Power 5 schools are unnecessary ie posing their players to harm.
All of these statements from the lower schools pointing to “medical evidence” as the basis for their decisions could potentially be used against the bigger schools in lawsuits by lawyers for any players that get terribly sick. You guys knew or should have known and disregarded the risk.
Now, the WOKE media, knowing full well and good that many of these schools couldn’t adhere to the testing requirements because of lack of finances, which the bigger schools can, are taking the story and running with it that the Power 5 schools are unnecessary ie posing their players to harm.
All of these statements from the lower schools pointing to “medical evidence” as the basis for their decisions could potentially be used against the bigger schools in lawsuits by lawyers for any players that get terribly sick. You guys knew or should have known and disregarded the risk.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 9:23 am to Roscoe
The SEC can play the SEC and be done with it. All the other pansies can take off a year.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 10:13 am to STEVED00
The pandemic will change the whole model
You can’t fund the entire collegiate sports model and title ix and power 5 funding the smaller schools all on the backs of a power 5 football season
You can’t fund the entire collegiate sports model and title ix and power 5 funding the smaller schools all on the backs of a power 5 football season
Posted on 8/9/20 at 10:44 am to STEVED00
MAC was screwed if they played in fall with power 5 playing conf only
There last gasp was to do this and hope power 5 gets on board
What they don’t realize is spring will not be an option
As power 5 players will declare for nfl
There last gasp was to do this and hope power 5 gets on board
What they don’t realize is spring will not be an option
As power 5 players will declare for nfl
Posted on 8/9/20 at 10:45 am to nicholastiger
P5 schools don’t fund G5 schools. Some combination of Institutional support, student fees and donors do.
Some of you are absolutely clueless as to how these budgets work.
Let me give you an example. LA Tech has an athletic budget around 25 million, probably a little more since that number is from a few years bag. That is the lowest in conference USA and one of the lowest in all of the G5. They had ONE buy game this year. The other game with Baylor was a two for one with Baylor making a trip to Ruston. Vanderbilt was going to pay LA Tech $750,000 for the game in Nashville this year. That is AT MOST 3% of the entire athletic budget. So, realizing that most G5 schools have even larger budgets than Tech it is safe to say that budget percentage is lower and even significantly lower in a lot of other cases.
Also, before you go there, buy game numbers in basketball have significantly lower numbers. In baseball you essentially have your travel paid for.
Stating that P5 programs keep G5 alive with buy games displays an amazing amount of ignorance.
Some of you are absolutely clueless as to how these budgets work.
Let me give you an example. LA Tech has an athletic budget around 25 million, probably a little more since that number is from a few years bag. That is the lowest in conference USA and one of the lowest in all of the G5. They had ONE buy game this year. The other game with Baylor was a two for one with Baylor making a trip to Ruston. Vanderbilt was going to pay LA Tech $750,000 for the game in Nashville this year. That is AT MOST 3% of the entire athletic budget. So, realizing that most G5 schools have even larger budgets than Tech it is safe to say that budget percentage is lower and even significantly lower in a lot of other cases.
Also, before you go there, buy game numbers in basketball have significantly lower numbers. In baseball you essentially have your travel paid for.
Stating that P5 programs keep G5 alive with buy games displays an amazing amount of ignorance.
This post was edited on 8/9/20 at 10:46 am
Posted on 8/9/20 at 10:47 am to STEVED00
Yes, the MAC cancelled because of $$$ not safety.
Yes the G5 can't survive without the paydays from the P5, however much of cost is fixed cost. (Stadium debt, scholarships, coaches' salaries, support staff)
Each conference needs to determine travel cost and travel restrictions.
Yes the G5 can't survive without the paydays from the P5, however much of cost is fixed cost. (Stadium debt, scholarships, coaches' salaries, support staff)
Each conference needs to determine travel cost and travel restrictions.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 11:23 am to Snoop Dawg
Yeah $750k I’m sure would go a long way when u have a lot more you need to shell out for new safety protocols.
Just citing “medical advice” as why MAC decided to cancel does NOT mean the power 5 schools would get the same “medical advice” bc their financial situations probably are vastly different.
I’m sure OSU, Bama, ND, etc could easily cover the $ required for extra safety protocols so “medical advice“ would be that they can play. La Tech probably can’t shell out the $ for the same safety protocols so the “medical advice” would be that they don’t play. The fact the MAC schools are losing their $ games definitely hurts in that respect.
Just citing “medical advice” as why MAC decided to cancel does NOT mean the power 5 schools would get the same “medical advice” bc their financial situations probably are vastly different.
I’m sure OSU, Bama, ND, etc could easily cover the $ required for extra safety protocols so “medical advice“ would be that they can play. La Tech probably can’t shell out the $ for the same safety protocols so the “medical advice” would be that they don’t play. The fact the MAC schools are losing their $ games definitely hurts in that respect.
Posted on 8/9/20 at 11:34 am to msutiger
quote:Tech is a pretty big G5, but some like ULM play three a year, and we all know how HBCUs take the long road trips in basketball.
Stating that P5 programs keep G5 alive with buy games displays an amazing amount of ignorance.
Hell some high schools even do buy games against the likes of West Monroe
Posted on 8/9/20 at 5:47 pm to STEVED00
No
This will hurt a lot of non P5 schools, but not because of losing a payday game. Many many non-P5s don't play payday games and certainly not every year. The AAC loses a fat TV contract at around $5 million per school - that alone is more revenue than the marginal cost of playing 12 games. Then there are season tickets and donations tied to season tickets....some won't demand refunds, but some will.
P5s lose all that too; but I suspect that most have enough savings to overcome it. Of course that's what I thought with the business shutdown, and low and behold much of corporate America was going into deep debt after a month or two.
This will hurt a lot of non P5 schools, but not because of losing a payday game. Many many non-P5s don't play payday games and certainly not every year. The AAC loses a fat TV contract at around $5 million per school - that alone is more revenue than the marginal cost of playing 12 games. Then there are season tickets and donations tied to season tickets....some won't demand refunds, but some will.
P5s lose all that too; but I suspect that most have enough savings to overcome it. Of course that's what I thought with the business shutdown, and low and behold much of corporate America was going into deep debt after a month or two.
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