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Is Snowden still a traitor? Or have we warmed up to the idea he was right?
Posted on 7/13/20 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 7/13/20 at 6:17 pm
to sell out the government and expose their illegal tracking
We need more Snowden's right about now
We need more Snowden's right about now
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Posted on 7/13/20 at 6:18 pm to theunknownknight
I always thought he was a hero. There is a weird kind of third option that he is actually a CIA operative meant to make the NSA look bad with all of their big brother gear.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 6:22 pm to theunknownknight
Hero.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 6:24 pm to Douglas Quaid
traitor
Posted on 7/13/20 at 6:25 pm to theunknownknight
Is and will always be a traitor subject to a traitors justice if he becomes problematic to Russia or worth the effort to the US.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 6:26 pm to theunknownknight
Never thought he was a traitor.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 6:27 pm to Bunk Moreland
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I always thought he was a hero. There is a weird kind of third option that he is actually a CIA operative meant to make the NSA look bad with all of their big brother gear.
That's because it is true. He had access to both but only exposed the NSA's.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 6:29 pm to Junky
I never thought him a traitor. He did break the law and should face the consequences for his actions but I don’t believe those actions traitorous.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 6:29 pm to Bunk Moreland
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I always thought he was a hero.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 6:31 pm to theunknownknight
It's not a binary choice. He was both right and a traitor.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 6:31 pm to Bayoutigre
Snowden gave our enemies advanced tech, exposed covert operators,top secret computer software tech. , did a lot of damage
Posted on 7/13/20 at 6:34 pm to theunknownknight
Snowden could have exposed the program without betraying the country.
He chose to run to Russia instead because he's a coward.
He chose to run to Russia instead because he's a coward.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 6:34 pm to Bayoutigre
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Snowden gave our enemies advanced tech, exposed covert operators,top secret computer software tech. , did a lot of damage
I think you're confusing Snowden with another leaker. Snowden only leaked data on programs that were spying on US citizens and he was very careful about what was released. No technology or software were made public due to him.
This post was edited on 7/13/20 at 7:04 pm
Posted on 7/13/20 at 6:37 pm to TigerCruise
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He chose to run to Russia instead because he's a coward.
He never intended to get stuck in Russia, that was a layover between flights and he was prevented from boarding his next one and got stuck. Russia was the last place he wanted to be (except maybe a CIA prison).
It's astounding the level of misinformation some will believe. Kind of proves him right about a lot of things.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 6:39 pm to GeauxTrain
No, he wasn’t a traitor at all. The traitor was the administration that did what it was doing.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 6:40 pm to GeauxTrain
Doesn't matter where he was running to.
He was running.
If he was a real patriot he would have exposed the program and stood up to the government and let the chips fall.
Instead he corroborated with foreign governments.
frick him
He was running.
If he was a real patriot he would have exposed the program and stood up to the government and let the chips fall.
Instead he corroborated with foreign governments.
frick him
Posted on 7/13/20 at 6:41 pm to TigerFanInSouthland
Violating the secrecy agreements he voluntarily signed makes him a traitor. No ifs, ands or buts about it. Doesn't mean he was wrong.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 6:44 pm to TigerCruise
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If he was a real patriot he would have exposed the program and stood up to the government and let the chips fall.
If he hadn't run you would've never known his name. He would've been vanished and prevented from ever telling his side of the story. Instead the intelligence world would've made him out to be some crazy pedo (or worse) and totally discredited him before his story ever made it to print. That's what they do. They still tried but because he was able to counter it they failed.
This post was edited on 7/13/20 at 6:49 pm
Posted on 7/13/20 at 6:47 pm to Bayoutigre
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our enemies
The biggest enemy we have is our own government and Snowden caught them with their pants down. The Russians or Chinese haven't gutted the 4th Amendment. Our own politicians do that. God bless him.
Posted on 7/13/20 at 6:49 pm to GeauxTrain
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Violating the secrecy agreements he voluntarily signed makes him a traitor.
Nah. That means he’s a criminal. There’s a difference.
Had he covertly sold the info to Russia/China/et al then he would be a traitor.
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