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Why do people cheat at Golf - Tuesday and Final Update
Posted on 7/5/20 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 7/5/20 at 3:27 pm
We have a group of 6-8 guys that play twice a week.
We had a huge blowup today, one of the guys always bumps his ball every time. If he hits a ball in the rough and has a bad lie, he will pick his ball up under the pretense of identifying his ball and of course he always gives himself a better lie.
This morning on the first tee, we said play it down (for his benefit), two holes later he was bumping his ball. 2 guys called him on it and the argument began.
Needless to say, it was a tense golf round and afterwards everyone just took off. I am not sure how the group goes on from here without losing a few guys.
What's amazing is the guy off the course is a great guy who will do anything for anyone and very enjoyable to be around we have been friends for years.
It's a huge deal because we always have a money game going on and some guys don't want to pay him going forward because they don't trust him right now.
Just don't get why he keeps doing what he does...
Guess that I am going to have to be the peacemaker in all of this. But the crap that he pulls has to stop.
Tuesday Updated :
I wish that I had a better report.
We teed off at 7:30 this morning and everyone but one guy was cordial and I told him to knock it off, we want a fresh start.
Anyway, we started off well enough and our Guy even birdied #2, then the wheels came off his round.
He started badly topping the ball for about 4 holes before getting out of it.
He was well on his way to a high 90's round and he was very tense all day and I am sure that led to the topping.
On number 17, that has water down the left by the green, he pulled his approach shot into the water. He then took his bag off the cart and walked in and left.
He didn't say a word to anyone. I tried to call him and he didn't answer.
Where does this stand now ? I am not sure.
I will continue to send him the email invites, but he might be done for a while and I hate that since we all know how hard it is to get 8 guys every week to play since it is getting hot.
We had a huge blowup today, one of the guys always bumps his ball every time. If he hits a ball in the rough and has a bad lie, he will pick his ball up under the pretense of identifying his ball and of course he always gives himself a better lie.
This morning on the first tee, we said play it down (for his benefit), two holes later he was bumping his ball. 2 guys called him on it and the argument began.
Needless to say, it was a tense golf round and afterwards everyone just took off. I am not sure how the group goes on from here without losing a few guys.
What's amazing is the guy off the course is a great guy who will do anything for anyone and very enjoyable to be around we have been friends for years.
It's a huge deal because we always have a money game going on and some guys don't want to pay him going forward because they don't trust him right now.
Just don't get why he keeps doing what he does...
Guess that I am going to have to be the peacemaker in all of this. But the crap that he pulls has to stop.
Tuesday Updated :
I wish that I had a better report.
We teed off at 7:30 this morning and everyone but one guy was cordial and I told him to knock it off, we want a fresh start.
Anyway, we started off well enough and our Guy even birdied #2, then the wheels came off his round.
He started badly topping the ball for about 4 holes before getting out of it.
He was well on his way to a high 90's round and he was very tense all day and I am sure that led to the topping.
On number 17, that has water down the left by the green, he pulled his approach shot into the water. He then took his bag off the cart and walked in and left.
He didn't say a word to anyone. I tried to call him and he didn't answer.
Where does this stand now ? I am not sure.
I will continue to send him the email invites, but he might be done for a while and I hate that since we all know how hard it is to get 8 guys every week to play since it is getting hot.
This post was edited on 7/7/20 at 2:43 pm
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Posted on 7/5/20 at 3:35 pm to bopper50
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Guess that I am going to have to be the peacemaker in all of this
straight up tell him not to touch his ball
Posted on 7/5/20 at 3:41 pm to bopper50
frick that, especially if there's money involved. Make a damn gallery around his shots if need be
Posted on 7/5/20 at 4:42 pm to bopper50
Identifying the ball is a lame excuse. It’s rare 2 balls are THAT close to one another in the rough. I’ve rarely ever needed to identify a ball in the rough, and when I do I don’t touch the ball, I gently move a couple blades of grass to identify my markings or something that let me knows it’s my ball.
Have him cheat the professional way. The pros always act like they’re going to hit 3wood in the rough and set up to that shot (matting down the grass behind the ball in the process) and then have an epiphany that the iron was the correct play all along
Have him cheat the professional way. The pros always act like they’re going to hit 3wood in the rough and set up to that shot (matting down the grass behind the ball in the process) and then have an epiphany that the iron was the correct play all along
Posted on 7/5/20 at 4:51 pm to bopper50
Had the same situation in our weekday group. Multiple warnings, finally told him he needed to find another group. Shame but he just couldn’t or wouldn’t stop.
Posted on 7/5/20 at 5:18 pm to bopper50
The guys I know who do this are either terrible and no one gives a shite, or they can’t help themselves and would screw their own brother over on a business deal.
Posted on 7/5/20 at 9:51 pm to bopper50
I never understood why people cheat at golf. You’re not gonna get better if you don’t post a real score. I ain’t gonna lie Though. If my ball is sitting on a root and I’m not playing for money or a in a tournament I’ll move it backwards.
Posted on 7/5/20 at 11:55 pm to bopper50
In money games, the rules must be established and overtly agreed to before the match. It saves time, arguments, and friendships. If you play it as it lies, a bump is a stroke.
You may be correct, though. Bumping can be habit forming, and he may do it occasionally without thinking. Having said that, I would be aghast if I had done so unconsciously and would want to be called out immediately, rather than after a round.
However, if he does this regularly and is not apologetic or embarrassed, it is a character flaw. You find out a lot about an individual’s character from the way he carries himself on the golf course. Money generally brings out the worst and best in people.
You may be correct, though. Bumping can be habit forming, and he may do it occasionally without thinking. Having said that, I would be aghast if I had done so unconsciously and would want to be called out immediately, rather than after a round.
However, if he does this regularly and is not apologetic or embarrassed, it is a character flaw. You find out a lot about an individual’s character from the way he carries himself on the golf course. Money generally brings out the worst and best in people.
This post was edited on 7/6/20 at 12:10 am
Posted on 7/6/20 at 12:34 pm to bopper50
The only time me or my playing partners will give free relief is if the ball is sitting on a root or a root will definitely contact the club on a swing. I've snapped a 5-iron in two at the hosel because of a small root I couldn't see. We are not tour pro's with tour vans in the parking lot waiting to give us a brand new set of clubs, so no need to break clubs or risk someone getting hurt with debris etc.
But bumping or moving your ball in the rough is definitely shady. If it's not something that can break your club or endanger someone, play that shite as it lies. It's part of the game.
But bumping or moving your ball in the rough is definitely shady. If it's not something that can break your club or endanger someone, play that shite as it lies. It's part of the game.
Posted on 7/6/20 at 6:21 pm to bopper50
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We had a huge blowup today, one of the guys always bumps his ball every time. If he hits a ball in the rough and has a bad lie, he will pick his ball up under the pretense of identifying his ball and of course he always gives himself a better lie.
This morning on the first tee, we said play it down (for his benefit), two holes later he was bumping his ball. 2 guys called him on it and the argument began.
Needless to say, it was a tense golf round and afterwards everyone just took off. I am not sure how the group goes on from here without losing a few guys.
What's amazing is the guy off the course is a great guy who will do anything for anyone and very enjoyable to be around we have been friends for years.
It's a huge deal because we always have a money game going on and some guys don't want to pay him going forward because they don't trust him right now.
Just don't get why he keeps doing what he does...
Guess that I am going to have to be the peacemaker in all of this. But the crap that he pulls has to stop.
So funny that we have an older guy here in Dullsville who is exactly the same way. He's in his late 70's but still a 2 HDCP from the gold tees. Has probably shot his age 100 times. He played golf at Vandy in the early 60's.
He's both an MTSU and Vandy booster, plays the piano at his church every time they open the doors, buys dinner for everyone almost every time, but he's the biggest cheater I've ever seen. His first name is Don. They call him Don Fudge. Everyone says it's because he's so competitive. To me, it's just lying.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 2:43 pm to bopper50
Tuesday Updated :
I wish that I had a better report.
We teed off at 7:30 this morning and everyone but one guy was cordial and I told him to knock it off, we want a fresh start.
Anyway, we started off well enough and our Guy even birdied #2, then the wheels came off his round.
He started badly topping the ball for about 4 holes before getting out of it.
He was well on his way to a high 90's round and he was very tense all day and I am sure that led to the topping.
On number 17, that has water down the left by the green, he pulled his approach shot into the water. He then took his bag off the cart and walked in and left.
He didn't say a word to anyone. I tried to call him and he didn't answer.
Where does this stand now ? I am not sure.
I will continue to send him the email invites, but he might be done for a while and I hate that since we all know how hard it is to get 8 guys every week to play since it is getting hot.
I wish that I had a better report.
We teed off at 7:30 this morning and everyone but one guy was cordial and I told him to knock it off, we want a fresh start.
Anyway, we started off well enough and our Guy even birdied #2, then the wheels came off his round.
He started badly topping the ball for about 4 holes before getting out of it.
He was well on his way to a high 90's round and he was very tense all day and I am sure that led to the topping.
On number 17, that has water down the left by the green, he pulled his approach shot into the water. He then took his bag off the cart and walked in and left.
He didn't say a word to anyone. I tried to call him and he didn't answer.
Where does this stand now ? I am not sure.
I will continue to send him the email invites, but he might be done for a while and I hate that since we all know how hard it is to get 8 guys every week to play since it is getting hot.
Posted on 7/7/20 at 4:18 pm to bopper50
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He then took his bag off the cart and walked in and left.
He didn't say a word to anyone. I tried to call him and he didn't answer.
Learning to play the ball down is tough. Bumping becomes second nature. It was in his head. He may not want to play that way. Oh well.
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we all know how hard it is to get 8 guys every week to play since it is getting hot.
Where do y’all play?
Posted on 7/7/20 at 8:32 pm to bopper50
Bannhim from your group, he will never stop
We had a guy would always park the cart between his ball and those in the foursome
We had a guy would always park the cart between his ball and those in the foursome
Posted on 7/8/20 at 10:27 am to bopper50
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We have a group of 6-8 guys that play twice a week.
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I will continue to send him the email invites, but he might be done for a while and I hate that since we all know how hard it is to get 8 guys every week to play since it is getting hot.
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Sugar Land
Posted on 7/8/20 at 12:47 pm to bopper50
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We teed off at 7:30 this morning and everyone but one guy was cordial and I told him to knock it off, we want a fresh start.
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On number 17, that has water down the left by the green, he pulled his approach shot into the water. He then took his bag off the cart and walked in and left.
I understand your group's games are for money, so I imagine it's very competitive. I just think this would be way too serious of a group for me to play with.
I'm as competitive a person as there is, but I hope I never get to this point with the game of golf. I play almost every weekend to get out of the house and enjoy myself. I like to play well, but I'm also well aware I won't be going pro any time soon. I love this game too much to get this angry about it.
This post was edited on 7/8/20 at 12:48 pm
Posted on 7/9/20 at 9:47 am to bopper50
I refuse to play golf with one of my best friends because he cheats his arse off, and acts like a child when you call him on it. I haven't blatantly told him to his face why I am always "busy" when he asks me to play because there is no use.
I truly don't enjoy myself when we are out there together, so I'll just smile and nod when he tells me he fired off an 80 this weekend.
I truly don't enjoy myself when we are out there together, so I'll just smile and nod when he tells me he fired off an 80 this weekend.
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