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re: Vinyl Vs. Hardwood

Posted on 6/30/20 at 7:06 am to
Posted by Poule Deau Gravy
US of A
Member since Aug 2019
133 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 7:06 am to
Thanks for all the input from all of yall! Our dogs are 70 and 40 pounds, so they have a whole lot of scratching potential. I'm leaning towards the vinyl after talking with Mrs. Poule D'eau. We've decided to take a wall out of the entrance walkway and then lay the floor. Thanks again and I'm sure I'll have more for y'all down the road!
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
41584 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:07 am to
Cali Bamboo is partnered with Petco. This stuff is indestructible. Has a 20mil layer.
Posted by TheNolaClap
Jersey Shore (not fist pump)
Member since Jun 2012
1489 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 8:22 am to
When you go to buy, get quote from carpet express in GA. They will cut you a deal and ship all across the country. weshipfloors.com is also a big wholesaler. Name sounds sketch, I know, but they really do well on the prices and speed of shipping to you.
Posted by BoogaBear
Member since Jul 2013
5611 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 9:00 am to
We have lifeproof in our basement, and real wood on the main level. The dogs and kids have demolished the real wood in 5 years. Already needs to be refinished.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24515 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 9:07 am to
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Technology improved and it looks and feels really good now.

Edit: Also there is a huge difference between rolled vinyl flooring and luxury vinyl plank flooring. The plank is exactly what it sounds like: rigid wood like planks of flooring.


Ok, let's cut out all of this bullshite. Luxury vinyl is in no way, shape or form "wood like." Wood is wood and vinyl is vinyl. It doesn't feel like wood. It doesn't sound like wood. It only looks like wood. Your home gains value when you install real wood floors. Vinyl is actually less appealing on the market.

When we were putting our new floors in a few years ago we toured house with luxury vinyl, wood and wood-look tile. Nothing replaces hardwood floors. We ultimately chose the wood-look tile because we have small children, 2 dogs and a pool.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18073 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 9:09 am to
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This may sound crazy but look at the new luxury vinyl. I have been shopping for floors and every shop is telling me they are doing a ton of the stuff in all price range houses. It is very heavy duty and not what you would think when you here the word vynil.


I absolutely LOVE the looks of finished in place hardwood but if practicality is the focus of your home improvement, I would also recommend high end vinyl plank flooring. The install is much faster, easier and no mess. Not to mention you get a fully water proof product when you are done. You can get it to look like any wood floor finish you want.

I have a walnut stained traditional hardwood floor and while it looks nice it scratches, dents, chips, etc. really easy. And once the clear coat was cracked because of settling, a little bit of water creeps in there from ice falling to the floor or something and now you get small amounts of swelling/bowing in hardwood that will never go away. It gets annoying.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18073 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 9:13 am to
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Vinyl is actually less appealing on the market.


Some people update their homes to live in, not to sell.
Posted by Poule Deau Gravy
US of A
Member since Aug 2019
133 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 9:14 am to
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dogs and kids have demolished the real wood in 5 years


That's what I'm trying to avoid. Kids are in the 3-4 year plan and I know for a fact that we'll always have dogs so I don't want a wrecked floor.
Posted by TheNolaClap
Jersey Shore (not fist pump)
Member since Jun 2012
1489 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 9:15 am to
I agree, traditional solid hardwood adds most value. Depends on how long you are staying in the home. Also have to look at cost. I did high quality LVP for half the cost of mid range solid hardwood. Would solid wood's value make that money back for me? Maybe, maybe not. As a 5-7 year home and expecting my first kid in 2 months and dogs, LVP made sense.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24515 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 9:27 am to
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I agree, traditional solid hardwood adds most value. Depends on how long you are staying in the home. Also have to look at cost. I did high quality LVP for half the cost of mid range solid hardwood. Would solid wood's value make that money back for me? Maybe, maybe not. As a 5-7 year home and expecting my first kid in 2 months and dogs, LVP made sense.


I definitely think LVP has it's place. It's great in bathrooms, sun rooms, etc. I just wouldn't want 2500sq ft of it throughout my house.


I told my wife after kid #2 I'll make sure she gets nice wood floors in our retirement village because there's no way I'd drop that kind of money on flooring with 2 small kids and 2 big dogs.
Posted by gsvar2004
Member since Nov 2007
7958 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 9:59 am to
we debated this heavily, went with LVP, been in house about 7 months multiple places separating at the butt end. id never recommend this flooring. wish we had done traditional hardwood and tile in the bathrooms.
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
18073 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:02 am to
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we debated this heavily, went with LVP, been in house about 7 months multiple places separating at the butt end. id never recommend this flooring. wish we had done traditional hardwood and tile in the bathrooms.


I have only seen that happen with the filler wasn't used on the outside (like rope caulk). Can you verify that was used on perimeter?
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:13 am to
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dogs and kids have demolished the real wood in 5 years


That's what I'm trying to avoid. Kids are in the 3-4 year plan and I know for a fact that we'll always have dogs so I don't want a wrecked floor.



I have 3 kids and a 75lb inside lab princess. Our oak wood floors are over 70 years old. We had them refinished over 6 years ago and they still look great. If you plan on selling in 5 years the wood will be more appealing for potential buyers.
Posted by Libertariantiger
Member since Nov 2012
981 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:37 pm to
I actually have seen some LVP that didn't have a lock in the butt ends, just a tongue and groove. It would separate and have hi/low issues. More of a manufacturer error with new product than a condemnation of the product. It is evolving to every product having locks on ends and built in pad. It was a newer product 3 or 4 years back.
Posted by gsvar2004
Member since Nov 2007
7958 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 4:27 pm to
i have no idea tbh, I'm gonna say no there is no filler under the baseboards

this is the stone cast brand, supposed to be one of the highest quality holmes sells. idk.
Posted by Darla Hood
Near that place by that other place
Member since Aug 2012
14021 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 5:33 pm to
Engineered real wood or solid? We have two dogs and our floors are ten years old. While they're starting to show a little wear, they are in no way ruined or demolished.
Posted by gumbeaux
Member since Jun 2004
4473 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 5:36 pm to
I have sheet vinyl flooring already on the floor. I’m thinking about installing the vinyl plank flooring over the sheet vinyl flooring in lieu of ripping up the existing flooring and using a pad. In other words, the sheet flooring will act as the pad.

Does that sound OK?
Posted by joeleblanc
Member since Jan 2012
4114 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 6:06 pm to
When it was cut into planks and was called LUXURY vinyl
Posted by Libertariantiger
Member since Nov 2012
981 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 10:34 pm to
Gumbeaux,

The vinyl is the top layer, but the underneath is pvc type material and has very little give or flexibility. If the floor is level you can lay it over the existing floor with no problem. If the floor has humps or dips you will have a problem. Its going to depend on that more than the sheetvinyl you are going over.
If the floor humps and dips a water resistant laminate would work better. It is the opposite of LVP, where it has a harder outer layer and softer underneath. Laminate is much more forgiving in those situations.
Posted by gumbeaux
Member since Jun 2004
4473 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 11:56 pm to
Thanks...the floor is level so I think I’ll move forward with laying the planks over the sheet vinyl without a pad under the planks. It will save a lot work.
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