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re: Current US turmoil was what Hitler predicted

Posted on 6/21/20 at 10:20 pm to
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 6/21/20 at 10:20 pm to
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Hitler was less time removed away from our Civil War than we are today of WW2. He wasnt stupid


Hitler had no real understanding of the US Civil War. And this post comes across as apologetics for slavery to be quite honest with you.
This post was edited on 6/21/20 at 10:22 pm
Posted by bee Rye
New orleans
Member since Jan 2006
33983 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 10:21 pm to
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Our constitution is what sets us apart. As long as that is not compromised, I will never give up hope.



It’s pretty much been compromised already. Freedom of speech is dead
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55536 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 10:22 pm to
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Hitler had no real understanding of the US Civil War


Probably not. Not sure there had been many foreign translations of any contemporary or postbellum accounts of the war at that time.

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And this post comes across as apologetics for slavery to quite honest with you.


lol what
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39156 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 10:24 pm to
Centrists like landshark get the gas first
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109908 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 10:24 pm to
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Probably not. Not sure there had been many foreign translations of any contemporary or postbellum accounts of the war at that time.


Hitler admired America for slavery, what we did to the Native Americans, and our Manifest Destiny. Every foreign ambassador, including the Italians and the Japanese, were perplexed by Hitler’s understanding of America at large.

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lol what


Seeing the positives of the Civil War? I assure you he didn’t see it on the Union’s side.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109908 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 10:25 pm to
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Centrists like landshark get the gas first


Well if you want me to vote for Trump, this not a good argument.
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39156 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 10:26 pm to
I don’t want people like you on my side
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109908 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 10:27 pm to
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I don’t want people like you on my side


Then prepare to lose everything, because you need moderates on your side. Hitler apologies aren’t going to get you moderates or even conservatives on your side.
Posted by chateaublanc
Member since Apr 2020
1118 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 10:28 pm to
quote:

Hitler had no real understanding of the US Civil War.


I dont pretend to be an expert on Hitler. It was just an observation

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And this post comes across as apologetics for slavery to be quite honest with you.


mmk
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109908 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 10:29 pm to
Just take my advice on this. Never start a conversation or a retort with “Say what you will about Hitler, but...”. Sane people will immediately think “Wait... WHAT?!”
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55536 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 10:31 pm to
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Just take my advice on this. Never start a conversation or a retort with “Say what you will about Hitler, but...”. Sane people will immediately think “Wait... WHAT?!”



That's part of the problem. The same can be said about any other person considered a monster by contemporary standards. Objective analysis, rather than a received mythology about a past villain, is the only way to have a rational discussion.
Posted by Samso
nyc
Member since Jun 2013
4740 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 10:31 pm to
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The greatest threat to the United States as the world's superpower isn't an external force. It's the people within tearing it down, IMHO.


Aka Rome 2.0. The Visigoths are already among us.

Hate to say it, but the only thing that will make any lasting change is another Great War or catastrophe.
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39156 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 10:32 pm to
Imagine caring about what some retard normie thinks of you
This post was edited on 6/21/20 at 10:33 pm
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55536 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 10:33 pm to
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Imagine caring what some retard normie thinks about you



I think it's important to couch an argument in a way that doesn't immediately result in rejection. Not everyone is an autist with a need to constantly research or understand everything.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109908 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 10:33 pm to
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That's part of the problem. The same can be said about any other person considered a monster by contemporary standards. Objective analysis, rather than a received mythology about a past villain, is the only way to have a rational discussion.


But this is what these Leftist fricks say about Lenin, Stalin, and Mao. There’s always a BUT excusing their behavior or reasoning. Don’t go down that rabbit hole. It’s a losing one.
This post was edited on 6/21/20 at 10:34 pm
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55536 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 10:35 pm to
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But this is what these Leftist fricks say about Lenin, Stalin, and Mao.


I'm not so well versed in the history of Mao, but there are certainly lessons to be learned from both Stalin and Lenin that don't come from a place of indemnity.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
109908 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 10:37 pm to
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I'm not so well versed in the history of Mao, but there are certainly lessons to be learned from both Stalin and Lenin that don't come from a place of indemnity.


Just curious, what do you think they are save for “Don’t go down that path” as I am saying?
Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
39156 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 10:38 pm to

I mainly just avoid talking politics around anyone outside of my close friend circle
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
55536 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 10:39 pm to
Effective capture of a state. I'm trying to be amoral as possible in the assessment of power dynamics, regardless of ideology. My boy Carl Schmitt done fricked me up.
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
6074 posts
Posted on 6/21/20 at 10:39 pm to
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Judges get to decide whatever they want. The "constitution" is meaningless in our current kritarchy.


GTFO then Mr. Troll Revolutionary.

There have been decisions that suck since Marbury vs Madison. You shite is old news. Thank GOD we still have somewhat of a Constitution lest we'd be Venezuela right now. Yet you and Caplewood, among others, think our Country sucks?

We live in the Greatest Country in the History of Civilization. It's neither a Progressive nor Anarchist Utopia a lot yours and other's may want, but compared to other "Socialist" Utopia's, we are doing pretty damn good.

What country do you think WE should be emulating? I would bet they have more Political Patronage and Authoritarianism than you are bitching about here.

Be glad you have the freedom to bitch and moan about how bad America is while they are throwing people in jail for the same in Europe as well as other countries.

Just think, you could be another Tommy Robinson if not for our Bill of Rights and Constitution.

America WILL survive.
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