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re: LSU and the Bengal Tiger
Posted on 6/18/20 at 10:11 pm to inadaze
Posted on 6/18/20 at 10:11 pm to inadaze
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Hopefully the large font LSU in the end zone also makes a comeback.
I’d be so pumped if we did that. I was 10 during the ‘03 season and made every home game except for Western Carolina and have a bunch of pictures of me playing in the end zone with the awesome big lettering. I always thought it looked cool.
Posted on 6/18/20 at 10:12 pm to Salviati
Stfu, don’t give the millennials the chance... they don’t know what it means
Posted on 6/18/20 at 10:38 pm to Salviati
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Bull shite. Read the whole quote, not just the last part.
I did.
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The part you quote is merely an aside that was a confirming coincidence.
No, the opposite. The part I left out was the "aside." It was simply an acknowledgment of what other schools were doing. Coates went on to say WHY he chose the Fighting Tiger ("Tigers" came from the Civil War unit, "The Louisiana Tigers."). Read the last sentence. Its location (end of the paragraph) is a clear indication it defines the "choice."
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confirming coincidence
bullshite
Posted on 6/18/20 at 10:46 pm to Irish LSU Fan
You post like a nerd who hates all LSU athletics.
Maybe a professor on tRant?
Maybe a professor on tRant?
Posted on 6/19/20 at 3:21 am to Salviati
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similar to that which used to adorn LSU's football helmet.
FIFY
This post was edited on 6/19/20 at 3:22 am
Posted on 6/19/20 at 8:47 am to Salviati
So one man (Dr Coates) says that the commonly accepted story isn’t so and we’re just supposed to take it as gospel truth?
You know how ridiculous that is, right? Please tell me that you realize this.
You know how ridiculous that is, right? Please tell me that you realize this.
Posted on 6/19/20 at 9:00 am to sml71
It is clear to me that he is saying that the relationship with Civil War units is COINCIDENCE.
Posted on 6/19/20 at 9:14 am to Salviati
During the civil war there was a brigade from St. Grable was the Bengal Tiger unit! They were a great Unit, thus LSU Bengal Tigers!
Posted on 6/19/20 at 9:26 am to Salviati
that's not what lsu web site says
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Way back in the fall of 1896, coach A.W. Jeardeau's LSU football team posted a perfect 6-0-0 record, and it was in that pigskin campaign that LSU first adopted its nickname, Tigers.
'Tigers' seemed a logical choice since most collegiate teams in that year bore the names of ferocious animals, but the underlying reason why LSU chose 'Tigers' dates back to the Civil War.
Posted on 6/19/20 at 9:44 am to sml71
quote:Dr. Charles Coates STARTED the LSU football program in 1893.
So one man (Dr Coates) says that the commonly accepted story isn’t so and we’re just supposed to take it as gospel truth?
You know how ridiculous that is, right? Please tell me that you realize this.
Dr. Charles Coates was the FIRST football coach for LSU.
Dr. Charles Coates is the man who, in conference with his players, CHOSE the Tiger as the mascot.
Dr. Charles Coates is the man who CHOSE purple and gold as the school colors.
LINK
Please tell me that you realize this.
Posted on 6/19/20 at 9:53 am to bootyswamper
quote:That is what LSU's web site says. LSU
that's not what lsu web site saysquote:
Way back in the fall of 1896, coach A.W. Jeardeau's LSU football team posted a perfect 6-0-0 record, and it was in that pigskin campaign that LSU first adopted its nickname, Tigers.
'Tigers' seemed a logical choice since most collegiate teams in that year bore the names of ferocious animals, but the underlying reason why LSU chose 'Tigers' dates back to the Civil War.
I understand that there appears to be some misunderstanding about the origins. But my link comes directly from a letter from the man who started the LSU football program in 1893, was LSU's first football coach, is the man who, in conference with his players, chose the Tiger as the mascot, and chose purple and gold as the school colors.
My link is from his own letter.
It is not someone's interpretation of what happened. It is not someone's research into what happened.
It is a letter from the man who actually chose the Tiger as the LSU mascot because he wanted a "ferocious animal" as the mascot. He knows what happened. He was there. He made the decision with his players. (BTW - His players were born well after the Civil War ended.)
Posted on 6/19/20 at 10:07 am to Salviati
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It is a letter from the man who actually chose the Tiger as the LSU mascot because he wanted a "ferocious animal" as the mascot.
Wrong. It does NOT say that. It mentions that naming teams after a "ferocious animal" was....."an occult." It is clear this statement meant Coates narrowed the discussion of the mascot to a "ferocious animal." However, the final choice was directly connected to the Confederate military unit. Coates' own words plus the LSU's statement confirms the obvious. You are "reaching" for a different explanation. However, you fall short based on the evidence.
Posted on 6/19/20 at 10:11 am to Mayhawman
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Maybe a professor
Thank you.....but I retired from Exxon a while back. Maybe I should apply for a teaching job at LSU....thanks for the reference.
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ou post like a nerd who hates all LSU athletics.
Nope. At least 50% of your statement is false.
Posted on 6/19/20 at 10:15 am to Salviati
The daily thread on this topic...a useless exercise that accomplishes nothing.
Posted on 6/19/20 at 10:27 am to SalE
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The daily thread on this topic...a useless exercise that accomplishes nothing.
Except that it exposes the extent some will go to rewrite history. Instead of trying to offer a lame rewrite of LSU's heritage (related to Fightin' Tigers), just stand up and own it. Let the Democrats make an attempt to change the school's mascot and see where that goes. The Democrats have/are crapped in their own box with this cancel culture stuff.
Posted on 6/19/20 at 10:46 am to Dennis4LSU
He thinks he can talk everybody out of the fact that it was named for the Confederate group that fought so well at Gettysburg. Tough shite. I'm proud of what those boys did and F whoever doesn't like it.
Posted on 6/19/20 at 10:51 am to Irish LSU Fan
quote:The use of the term "occult" merely means that people did not know why ferocious animals were chosen as mascots. It was just the lore and custom of the time.
Wrong. It does NOT say that. It mentions that naming teams after a "ferocious animal" was....."an occult."
quote:The evidence I rely upon is neither someone else's research nor someone else's interpretation of what happened. It comes straight from the proverbial horse's mouth:
It is clear this statement meant Coates narrowed the discussion of the mascot to a "ferocious animal." However, the final choice was directly connected to the Confederate military unit. Coates' own words plus the LSU's statement confirms the obvious. You are "reaching" for a different explanation. However, you fall short based on the evidence.
quote:Dr. Coates expressly states the criteria and the reason. They wanted a ferocious animal and the LSU team looked "Tigerish."
It was the custom at that time, for some occult reason, to call football teams by the names of vicious animals; the Yale Bulldogs and the Princeton Tigers, for example. This is still the vogue. It struck me that purple and gold looked Tigerish enough and I suggested that we choose “Louisiana Tigers,” all in conference with the boys.
* * *
So "Louisiana Tigers" went into the New Orleans papers and became our permanent possession.
He certainly discusses SEVERAL military units that also used the "Tiger" appellation, but that is merely confirmatory coincidence:
quote:At no point in his letter, however, does Dr. Coates state or even suggest that your hyptheses is correct, that "the final choice was directly connected to the Confederate military unit."
The Louisiana Tigers had represented the state in Civil War and had been known for their hard fighting. This name was applied collectively to the New Orleans Zouaves, the Donaldsonville Cannoniers, and to a number of other Louisiana companies sent to Virginia, who seemed to have the faculty of getting into the hardest part of the fighting and staying there, most of them permanently. One company I knew of went in 200 strong; only 28 returned and many of these were wounded.
Indeed, it is you who is "reaching" for a different explanation. However, your supposition falls short based on the evidence.
Posted on 6/19/20 at 11:23 am to Irish LSU Fan
As I said, the daily thread on this particular topic.
Posted on 6/19/20 at 12:03 pm to Salviati
When you have to pare down your responses to the point of explaining word meanings to people who read the paragraph you presented, it's probably best to stop explaining, they won't get it.
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