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re: JBE vetos tort reform

Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:54 pm to
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40262 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:54 pm to
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I thought it was veto proof


IIRC it passed with a veto proof majority in the state senate, but it passed 2 votes short of a veto proof majority in the state house.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80578 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 9:57 pm to
He did Talbot and Skip Phillips a favor. I wish he would have signed the bill letting me get 1.5 times the health insurance premiums paid.

Talbot sat down for the first time without Waguespack and Chauvin’s hands up his back moving his mouth and he was exposed as a terrible negotiator
This post was edited on 6/12/20 at 10:01 pm
Posted by DevilDagNS
Member since Dec 2017
2701 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:00 pm to
This is a good thing. It needed to be vetoed. Several idiotic amendments were added at the last minute and its a mess. There are several fixer bills in the special session.
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:13 pm to


Yes, punitive damages are awesome. My favorite case on the matter is Jacque v. Steenberg Homes, 563 N.W.2d 154 (Wisc. 1997).

quote:

Punitive damages, by removing the profit from illegal activity, can help to deter such conduct. In order to effectively do this, punitive damages must be in excess of the profit created by the misconduct so that the defendant recognizes a loss. It can hardly be said that the $30 forfeiture paid by Steenberg significantly affected its profit for delivery of the mobile home. One hundred thousand dollars will.


This post was edited on 6/12/20 at 10:13 pm
Posted by beulahland
Little D'arbonne
Member since Jan 2013
3603 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:15 pm to
Of course he did.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
27537 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:17 pm to
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I like how you would give up your own legal rights, including those of your children and grandchildren, just to stop PI lawyers.

Here come the tards with a legal opinion but with zero understanding of litigation.

You are giving up:

1. Your amount compensation for injury of death due to negligence of another
2. Your ability to litigate a case timely

Youre giving it up for the benefit of foreign billion dollar insurance companies who don’t give a squirt of piss about you or your loved ones. Your 5 year old daughter could be slowly burned to death in a fire by a drunk driver and they don’t give a frick. Trust me, I fought them daily for 20 years. You are nothing to their stockholders. You are just in their way of larger profits.

And what do you get in return for the bill? Nothing! They refuse to promise you any reduction in premiums. Refused to put it in the bill. Why? Because it will never get reduced.

Examples of legislative restrictions on injury compensation that fricked the average Joe for the benefit of big businesses:

Lose a leg on the job? It’s capped at 66.67% of approximately 150 weeks of your salary. Does that sound fair? The legislature said it is. You’ll never walk again but hey, frick you and your family.

Your 10 year old child is killed by a surgeon who was rushing to go on his golf trip and let them bleed out during surgery because he failed to see he punctured her intestine? $500,000 is all her life is worth according to the legislature. Why? Because millionaire physicians said their premiums were too high and everyone bought it. Who benefited? Billion dollar malpractice carriers who lessened their payouts. Physicians premiums are still high.

They are your rights to just compensation. You should protect them. God forbid you might need them one day.


I’m an attorney, idiot. Save your pontificating for someone else.
This post was edited on 6/12/20 at 10:19 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
27537 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:21 pm to
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2 years prescription for $15,000 threshold should be the deal. Everything else is lagniappe



Why not throw collateral source in with that? Or dispensing with the direct action statute?
This post was edited on 6/12/20 at 10:25 pm
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80578 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:25 pm to
Collateral source gets difficult liability or causation cases settled. I actually didn’t mind giving it up for 1.5 multiplier on premiums paid. That’s fair and equitable.

Direct action is more procedural in me getting to serve a stable defendant insurance company. Transient defendants and service of process will become more difficult when that’s not really what it’s about. I’m not sure I buy the premise that juries award more knowing an insurance company is a defendant. There are ways to make that known even if State Farm isn’t listed in the header.

But if the flip is that limits have to be disclosed pre-suit then I’ll entertain the idea as less claims will need to be litigated anyway


This post was edited on 6/12/20 at 10:30 pm
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40262 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:32 pm to
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Your 10 year old child is killed by a surgeon who was rushing to go on his golf trip and let them bleed out during surgery because he failed to see he punctured her intestine?


Has that actually ever actually happened in real life? Have you ever seen a intra-abdominal surgery or a perforated bowel? If the intestines are perforated there is no way that it gets messed. There will be air bubbles in the saline fluid used to washout the abdomen before closure. Not to mention the washout fluid will be shite colored when it is suctioned out. Plus everyone in the OR will be able to smell it. The smell of a perforated bowel is strong enough to penetrate surgery masks and is unmistakable. Even the 3rd year medical student holding the camera or the nursing students standing out of the way in the back of the room would know that something ain’t right.
This post was edited on 6/13/20 at 12:39 am
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80578 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:38 pm to
No, I haven’t, but if you did that to a five year old child, the most his/her parents could collect for the lifetime of suffering and change in quality of life for both the child and the parents is $500,000.

That number was legislated in 1974 and has not been adjusted for inflation. A basic internet calculator tells me $500,000 in 1974 is $2.6 million in today’s dollars.

Med mal in Louisiana is not one you tort reform guys want to touch. It already ironclad. Look up LAMMICO dividend returns to ratepayers
This post was edited on 6/12/20 at 10:51 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
27537 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:43 pm to
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There are ways to make that known even if State Farm isn’t listed in the header.



Fair point.

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Collateral source gets difficult liability or causation cases settled. I actually didn’t mind giving it up for 1.5 multiplier on premiums paid. That’s fair and equitable.



I could live with that.

Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99868 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 10:45 pm to
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just compensation


Bwahahahahahaha

Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40262 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 12:13 am to
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No, I haven’t,


You admit that you have no idea how many checks and balances are there in place right now that make the hypothetical situation as close to impossible as humanly possible (not saying that it cannot happen but there is a better chance of you getting a bj from nun and winning the powerball and then getting stuck by lightning in a 15 minute time frame than a little kid dying from bowel perforation because the surgeon was in a hurry). It doesn't matter if the reimbursement hasn't been adjusted since 1974 because the pain and suffering will not occur because the hypothetical situation will not occur. If you are having to rely on a hypothetical that is basically impossible to happen in real life then you have no argument counselor.

If you disagree meet me at sonic in the morning when it opens.
This post was edited on 6/13/20 at 12:17 am
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
80578 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 12:20 am to
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It doesn't matter if the reimbursement hasn't been adjusted since 1974 because the pain and suffering will not occur because the hypothetical situation will not occur.


Eek. It’s tough to offer a retort when the point clearly flew above your head.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40262 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 12:30 am to
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It doesn't matter if the reimbursement hasn't been adjusted since 1974 because the pain and suffering will not occur because the hypothetical situation will not occur.


Eek. It’s tough to offer a retort when the point clearly flew above your head.



I'm still waiting on a lawyer to explain to me why I or any citizen should be fighting to preserve our rights to compensation for pain and suffering for a hypothetical situation that just does not happen in real life (i.e. child dying from a bowel perforation because the surgeon was late for golf). All the other stuff you mentioned is not worth arguing over when the basis for the original argument is a bullshite hypothetical.
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
14353 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 4:16 am to
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I hate that MFer.
recall him and quit bitching.
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
14353 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 4:17 am to
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What level is warranted? Please explain.

Posted by shrevetigertom
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2005
4048 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 7:14 am to
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We'll get "tort reform" in Louisiana when folks start going to jail for Obamagate (and I'm not talking about some low level FBI dude falling on his sword, I mean someone we know, someone actually important).

Louisiana politics are run by LTLA. Period.
Actually the legislature finally has the numbers to achieve tort reform. The problem is we have a plaintiff lawyer in the governor's mansion so any attempts will be watered down because of the threat of a veto. The bill that passed was a disaster. Even the author will now tell you that.I suspect they have another bill ready.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99868 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 7:15 am to
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LTLA


They changed it to Louisiana Association For Justice a while back because they knew everyone loathed trial lawyers.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
35147 posts
Posted on 6/13/20 at 7:19 am to
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I don’t think it gets overridden. Just because you vote for the original bill doesn’t mean you vote for the override. There were a lot of people voting the first time knowing they had nothing to lose. They will now negotiate a watered down bill.

Oh look more spineless politicians. frick em all
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