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Does anyone in film or tv history have a better redemption arc than Prince Zuko?
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:52 pm
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:52 pm
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Jaime Lannister had the potential, but they completely fricked that up. Feel free to point out a better or comparable redemption.
Jaime Lannister had the potential, but they completely fricked that up. Feel free to point out a better or comparable redemption.
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Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:55 pm to OMLandshark
If we are going anime
Vegeta + Gaara
Pop to mind real quick. Not sure if GOATs but great arcs
Vegeta + Gaara
Pop to mind real quick. Not sure if GOATs but great arcs
Posted on 6/4/20 at 10:57 pm to OMLandshark
Steve from Stranger Things
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:02 pm to OMLandshark
Vader
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:06 pm to SammyTiger
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Steve from Stranger Things
Steve was just a dick teenager. He didn’t go to lows Zuko did.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:07 pm to Cosmo
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Vader
With Vader, it’s completely self interest with his son. Zuko betrayed his country to do the right thing.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:11 pm to OMLandshark
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Zuko’s arc was pretty damn good.
Goes from hating Aang and always falling on his face is their battles, but his Uncle was always there to pick him back up. I loved his uncle.
And you add in the angle with his father, the Fire Lord, where he’s always trying to seek his father’s approval. A lot of people can relate to that. Then, Zuko ends up be the one to teach the Avatar the fire elemental training. Zuko ended up being one of my favorite characters by the end of the series. It was very well done/told.
Zuko’s arc was pretty damn good.
Goes from hating Aang and always falling on his face is their battles, but his Uncle was always there to pick him back up. I loved his uncle.
And you add in the angle with his father, the Fire Lord, where he’s always trying to seek his father’s approval. A lot of people can relate to that. Then, Zuko ends up be the one to teach the Avatar the fire elemental training. Zuko ended up being one of my favorite characters by the end of the series. It was very well done/told.
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:43 pm to Stud Bud
“Evil and good are always at war inside you, Zuko. It is your nature; your legacy. But there is a bright side. What happened generations ago can be resolved now by YOU. Because of your legacy, you alone can cleanse the sins of our family and the Fire Nation. Born in you, along with all the strife, is the power to restore balance in the world.”
Best redemption ever.
Best redemption ever.
This post was edited on 6/5/20 at 7:15 pm
Posted on 6/4/20 at 11:49 pm to partywiththelombardi
Zechs Marquise is pretty up there as well, especially for Anime.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 12:49 am to Jack Ruby
Not going to argue against Zuko.
I'll honorable mention Faith from Buffy. It's far less intricate in design and obviously less integral to the shoe's story than Zuko's, but the payoff (and much of the journey) is wonderful.
I'll honorable mention Faith from Buffy. It's far less intricate in design and obviously less integral to the shoe's story than Zuko's, but the payoff (and much of the journey) is wonderful.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 12:54 am to Jay Are
depends on whether you view Piccolo as the son of Demon King Piccolo or his reincarnation.
If he is the son, then his arc isn't great, but if he is the reincarnation...hard to beat that arc.
If he is the son, then his arc isn't great, but if he is the reincarnation...hard to beat that arc.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 1:13 am to OMLandshark
Bubbles
Posted on 6/5/20 at 5:42 am to SammyTiger
Spoilers in the thread title my dude.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 8:13 am to OMLandshark
Just rewatched this w/ my 9 year old and it's hard to beat.
In comparing it to Vader... I think what makes Zuko's more impacting is that it just takes so long to complete the arc and it spans the entire series from the very first episode to the last.
Vader's was great and all, it just happened more rapidly. Zuko's is just more satisfying to watch unfold.
ETA: I hope they do this justice with the live action adaptation. I wonder, if it does well, if they take the adaptation further as the original was initially intended. If so, I wonder if we get an Azula redemption arc.
In comparing it to Vader... I think what makes Zuko's more impacting is that it just takes so long to complete the arc and it spans the entire series from the very first episode to the last.
Vader's was great and all, it just happened more rapidly. Zuko's is just more satisfying to watch unfold.
ETA: I hope they do this justice with the live action adaptation. I wonder, if it does well, if they take the adaptation further as the original was initially intended. If so, I wonder if we get an Azula redemption arc.
This post was edited on 6/5/20 at 8:17 am
Posted on 6/5/20 at 9:30 am to meeple
IMO Vader was never redeemed. You can't be a genocidal murderer and get redemption. He just finally made a good choice at the very very end.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 9:38 am to UMRealist
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IMO Vader was never redeemed. You can't be a genocidal murderer and get redemption. He just finally made a good choice at the very very end.
Hermann Göring takes the stand in his trial... "So you know how Hitler died from a suicide capsule and a bullet to the head right before the Russians got to him? I pulled the trigger!"
Posted on 6/5/20 at 10:09 am to meeple
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I wonder if we get an Azula redemption arc.
They've had a handful of post Avatar comic book series. In those Azula is, at best, semi-functional mentally. Still brilliant but insane.
The comics were... okayish.
The problem with an Azula redemption arc is that she has serious mental health issues (which they showed throughout the series) and had a psychotic break. It might be more of a "healing" arc than a redemption one.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 10:49 am to OMLandshark
Jamie Lannister ........ oh wait never mind
Posted on 6/5/20 at 11:43 am to Arksulli
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post Avatar comic book series
Can you point me in the direction of these?
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The problem with an Azula redemption arc is that she has serious mental health issues (which they showed throughout the series) and had a psychotic break. It might be more of a "healing" arc than a redemption one.
I'd enjoy that.
Posted on 6/5/20 at 12:02 pm to OMLandshark
quote:Well I just started this show on Netflix, posting that he has a redemption arc, is a spoiler itself.
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