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Posted on 5/6/20 at 11:58 am
Posted by HoustonGambler123
Houston
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 5/6/20 at 11:58 am
Really high on Farrell heading into this year. Any chance he’d slim down and try to be a 4-3 end. Think he’s too good to be splitting reps with Logan inside.

Also, love to see two kids from alabama balling out for our defense in Neil and Flott. Gives me the same joy as watching delpit and chaisson go against Texas
This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 12:19 pm
Posted by LSUfan00
Member since Sep 2016
399 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 12:08 pm to
I'm ready to see how bad #72 is going to destroy dudes in the 4-3. He was dominate through double teams at the nose. Just think about the production he's going to bring.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
40262 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 12:09 pm to
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love to see two kids from alabama balling out for our defense in Neil and Flott.

Three guys - Justin Thomas, too.
Posted by HoustonGambler123
Houston
Member since Aug 2017
56 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 12:13 pm to
Can’t wait to watch shelvin this year. Was thinking about goal line/short yardage this year with the possibility of shelvin and Ika in the middle, with Logan and Farrell on the outside. My god...
Posted by Joe Mantegna
knoxville
Member since Oct 2007
9316 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 12:15 pm to
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Neil Farrell Jr


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Really high on Ferrell heading into this year.


Are you serious?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67835 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 12:16 pm to
I jsut don't see Ferrell as an edge rusher, and I also think he will be a better DT than DE.

I think the main advanteg to moving to a 4-3 is to get an extra edge rusher on teh field.

BTW I found this dynamite article about the "Tite" front Aranda uses (literally uses LSU as the poster child) and the 4-2-5 most schools use to combat the spread offense (this is going to essentially by our base defense in this era)

LINK
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68685 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 12:36 pm to
He'll play end in this 4-3, he's losing weight and getting into shape for that, probably 280-ish. We need Logan, Farrell and Shelvin on the field at same time, by far the best 3 DLine we have. Wouldnt a be great idea to stick 2 unknowns out at DE like Thomas and McClendon IMO.

One of the coaches mentioned moving him to end in this defense a while back.
This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 12:37 pm
Posted by Ripley
Member since Aug 2016
4526 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 12:46 pm to
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Any chance he’d slim down

He definitely doesn’t need to lose weight.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279541 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 12:55 pm to
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jsut don't see Ferrell as an edge rusher,


Edge rusher is the wrong label.

Strong side end. Doesn’t have to be a great pass rusher. Set the edge, play the run.

It just so happens Farrell has shown some rush tendencies. Which is why he’ll prob move inside on pass downs so some of the guys LSU has recruited for the 3-4 can rush the passer
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
67835 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:16 pm to
Every down is a pass down now.

The biggest advantage to a 4-3 vs a 3-4 is another edge rusher.

This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 1:19 pm
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
30103 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:19 pm to
4-3 end isn’t an edge rusher
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
44606 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:24 pm to
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dominate


dominant
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279541 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:25 pm to
Edge rusher just isn’t a formal term. Not every player that plays an end is an edge rusher.

There very much is a prototype for a SDE and Farrell fits the mold. That position rarely houses “edge rusher” in a conventional 4/3


quote:

The biggest advantage to a 4-3 vs a 3-4 is another edge rusher.


No not really. Outside of the fact that the front will change on most passing downs, that’s just an untrue generalization. You can manufacture a rush from the edge in many ways, as again, the formation & personnel changes
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68685 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:27 pm to
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The biggest advantage to a 4-3 vs a 3-4 is another edge rusher.



Not how most any 4-3 works.

Also, teams still run the ball more on average than pass it by far.
This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 1:29 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
279541 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:39 pm to
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Also, teams still run the ball more on average than pass it by far.


Yup

With as much success as burrow had, Even LSU was about even last year. I think 53/47 pass/run
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
30103 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:42 pm to
Saints run a 4-3 i don’t know why people act like they never seen a 4-3 before
Posted by TNTigerman
James Island
Member since Sep 2012
10571 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:44 pm to
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I'm ready to see how bad #72 is going to destroy dudes in the 4-3. He was dominate through double teams at the nose. Just think about the production he's going to bring.

TShelvin is one of my favorite players the past few years. If he could slim down to about 335. In a 4-3, he could use a little more quickness since he will be doing more than tying up blockers from the NT position.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68685 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:54 pm to
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TShelvin is one of my favorite players the past few years. If he could slim down to about 335. In a 4-3, he could use a little more quickness since he will be doing more than tying up blockers from the NT position.



Naturally he's going to get less of a double team playing 1 tech 1 gap in a 4-3 vs. 0 tech 2 gap in a 3-4.

He could really see the most benefit moving to this because it really does take 2 guys to block him and it's a lot harder to double team on a 4-man front when you have guys shooting gaps vs. playing 2 gaps in a 3 man front.
Posted by thunderbird1100
GSU Eagles fan
Member since Oct 2007
68685 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 1:57 pm to
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Saints run a 4-3 i don’t know why people act like they never seen a 4-3 before



Maybe that's the confusing part because Cam Jordan plays that big DE role but is still an elite NFL pass rusher at 6'4 287.

In college though at Cal he had 1, 4, 6, and 5.5 sacks his 4 seasons playing.
This post was edited on 5/6/20 at 1:58 pm
Posted by sonuvapitcher
Member since Aug 2008
1771 posts
Posted on 5/6/20 at 2:19 pm to
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Gives me the same joy as watching delpit and chaisson go against Texas


Delpit is from Louisiana
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