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REIT investing today

Posted on 5/2/20 at 1:35 pm
Posted by bigeasy225
Mobile
Member since Jul 2019
22 posts
Posted on 5/2/20 at 1:35 pm
Looked through the stickied and also searched for recent threads on this but couldn't find anything comprehensive. What does everyone think about REIT's at this moment in today's environment? Vanguard's VGSIX is down about 25% off it's high earlier this year, but I imagine one of the worst case market scenarios in the coming months would be potential residential and commercial mortgage defaults. Obviously there are a lot of unknowns in the market right now as a whole, but real estate seems particularly vulnerable.

I've picked up a decent amount of a total stock market fund and some other blue chips like Coke, JPM the last month or so but have never invested in REITs and am not sure if this is a good time to start.

What have others been doing? Steer clear until things stabilize or start dollar averaging into one over the rest of the year?

How do you begin researching them in general, and anything else I should be looking at besides a vanguard ETF?

Thanks in advance.

Posted by bayoubengals88
LA
Member since Sep 2007
23479 posts
Posted on 5/2/20 at 3:49 pm to
VNQ
STOR
O
CIM
NRZ
NLY

These are already so beaten down that if you started dollar cost averaging at this point, I don’t think you could go wrong long term.

This is an extremely non expert opinion.
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17576 posts
Posted on 5/2/20 at 8:15 pm to
I think it’s ultra safe to say that 10% (extremely conservative number) of the workforce will be telecommuting moving forward.

Now tell me why Commerical rents won’t see massive downward pressure?

Just make sure you think through the REITs major holdings. I think class A building’s are in for a world of pain and vacancy because they are filled with companies that have the capability to put money into remote working.

I’d want to be in manufacturing property. Definitely not White collar offices. And it’s going to be a multi year unwind as the 3-5 year leases come up.

My $0.02
Posted by down time
space
Member since Oct 2013
1914 posts
Posted on 5/2/20 at 8:20 pm to
I took a beating on NRZ, I hope it comes back up.
Posted by Grits N Shrimp
Kansas City, MO
Member since Dec 2014
647 posts
Posted on 5/2/20 at 8:25 pm to
quote:

VNQ STOR O CIM NRZ NLY


Wouldn’t touch these besides maybe O.

Think about the types of companies that are going to be fine through all of this. E commerce and service providers.

Industrial reits own these properties.

Throw in ELS too.
Posted by buffbraz
Member since Nov 2005
5729 posts
Posted on 5/2/20 at 9:00 pm to
I started an HSA this year and invested in VGSIX and it up 25% since March.
Posted by BLM
ATL
Member since Oct 2011
780 posts
Posted on 5/2/20 at 11:48 pm to
I have Prologis and Americold. Both light industrial/distribution real estate owners. Americold specializes in cooler/freezer food property. I got both back in March so they’re up quite a bit. Good companies and the distribution world has stayed quite busy through the pandemic.
Posted by Grits N Shrimp
Kansas City, MO
Member since Dec 2014
647 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 7:37 am to
Prologis is the number 1 landlord of amazon I believe
Posted by FredsGotSlacks
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
859 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 3:47 pm to
I hold EPR and VNQ. Both are down quite a bit, especially EPR
Posted by Grits N Shrimp
Kansas City, MO
Member since Dec 2014
647 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 5:41 pm to
EPR only collected 15-20% of April rents due. They are based here in KC, I wish them good luck
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
37951 posts
Posted on 5/3/20 at 7:37 pm to
quote:

I think it’s ultra safe to say that 10% (extremely conservative number) of the workforce will be telecommuting moving forward.



Slightly off topic, but I am curious how this will affect the market in what people look for. A home office, or the abilty to add one, will be a priority
Posted by Mr.Perfect
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2013
17576 posts
Posted on 5/5/20 at 6:11 pm to
No doubt. Telecommuting is going to explode
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